Gies340 Report post Posted November 8, 2014 Complete newbie. Trying to tighten a 5 part, 4 bight turks head over a doubled 4 strand braid to make a loop. The knot wants to slip and collapse on the terminal end. Trying to make a loop with the 4 strand that looks good. Any help is appreciated. Jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites