silverdollarmagic

Hi SaddleBag. I honestly don't know if it is an Arab saddle. I do know it was used on a TWH and fits my own TWH very nicely. I have heard and read that Arab saddles tend to fit TWH's well. Out of all the pics I have of it, I don't have a pic of the front I will get some pics of the front today and post them here

When I get it I will get some detailed close ups and post them here. I know the pic doesn't do it justice. I am really excited about this one.

Thanks! I like the color too. I can't wait to get it and give it a good cleaning and oiling. It's been sitting on a saddle rack for a few years. The mother had a bad accident and can't ride anymore. She gave me a great deal on it.

After the nightmare with the last saddle, I decided to shop for an older Simco pleasure/trail saddle to just plod around in and found this one and purchased it. The seller is a young lady whose mother showed in it years ago. Thanks in advance! an

I wondered what happened to those photos, so here they are again. I took the fenders off because they are pretty nice actually. Nice thick leather. In good shape:

I got the saddle and immediately got a refund. The tree was rotten and splintered. As for the D-Rings, they do move. It is in fact an old training saddle. I took the fenders off because they are in great shape but have the rest in a box in my house. Not sure if I will trash it or use it as a decoration.

It actually occured to me that the pics of the saddle on the horse, the one the saddle is on in the pics, were taken with a tush cushion. This has been quite frustrating. Either way, I probably won't keep it because of the angle of the seat itself. I have a gaited horse and need my legs to be under me & relaxed. This saddle might put them forward, causing her & me to work harder to keep her in a proper gait.

This is true. I'm just really in panic mode here just from looking at the photos. I will check it over first and if I have any doubt, will take it to the local saddle shop for another set of eyes and hands to check it for me. Might do that anyway. She swears there was absolutely no problems with it and that she put about 150 hours of riding time on it. Said she wouldn't think of selling it if it fit the horse she has now. Whether it turns out to be perfectly safe and sound, or as crooked as it looks in the photos, I am still on the hunt for a good vintage western saddle. If it checks out "bad" then I will take action. Thank you Denise for calming me down LOL!

I purchased the saddle from a seller who advertised with horseclicks. You can see in the ad below the seller guaranteed it is "safe and tight." I will get the saddle Tuesday and will take photos and send a copy of the ad to paypal. I will also give it a thorough once or twice over to see if it is as crooked as it looks in the photos. When I e-mailed her a second time giving her a chance before I open a dispute with paypal, she stated "the tree is not crooked or broken. I had it checked by a saddle shop and checked it myself." Since she refuses to work with me, I am most def. going to go through paypal to get a refund. The more I look at the pics, the more upset I become. If for some reason paypal does not get my money back I am stuck with a saddle I can't even use. Other than the crookedness, it is a decent looking saddle IMO. http://www.horseclic...saddles/5b37h2/

Seller refuses to refund my money. Says she had no problems & the horn is tight & the seat sits even. Guess I will be trying to sell it for parts if the leather is nice enough.

Seller begged me to try it out. Said she rode in it for 6 months with no problems. Could be that her horse is very stoic but I happen to have a high strung mare who will let me know in no uncertain terms if she is uncomfortable. I have been seriously injured by a colt I was breaking because of a too narrow saddle. I will not take that chance again and the hubby says no way. I asked her to please just refund my money. Hoping I don't have to go through paypal.

Thank you Denise. I e-mailed the seller letting her know the saddle will be shipped back to her & that I would like a refund. She really sold that saddle hard and now I know why. I thought I had a good grasp on what a quality saddle is, but apparently not. I paid with paypal so hopefully I can recover most of my money. I feel like such an idiot for not looking closer at those pictures and realizing something is very off with the saddle. The saddles you posted are absolutely gorgeous. Stunning work! That's what a quality saddle looks like for sure.

Thank you all for letting me know what I already suspected. Just needed to know I wasn't in the wrong for thinking of asking for my money back and for clarifying that there is indeed something wrong with the saddle. I can assure all of you that saddle will not touch my horses' back. I will e-mail the seller now and tell her the saddle will be coming back to her and I would like a full refund. i ETA: When I said I could handle some flaws, I didn't mean obvious ones such as crookedness. I just meant a slight flaw. Nothing that would compromise th looks and soundness of the saddle. I had one hand made and it was perfect, but my horse outgrew it. I had no problem selling it.

Do you think the tree is crooked or just the cantle and horn? I can handle some flaws in the cosmetic appearance since the saddle was hand made, but of course not a crooked tree. That goes without saying. I don't have the saddle yet but am starting to believe I will end up opening a paypal claim for a defective item. I really am sick over this. $270 might not seem like a lot of money to some, but as a vintage saddle lover hoping to have scored a good deal, it is like a million dollars to me.

Looking at the pics again, it looks like the cantle and horn are offset, and that the swell on the right side was molded a bit off, and not necessarily a problem with the tree itself. Am I right? Or am I fooling myself? ETA: The fleece is somewhat new so it is thick looking. It's supposedly real and not synthetic fleece.