RooLeadGirl Report post Posted January 19, 2011 I have made hundreds of 4 strand roo leads. This was my first 6 sLtrand.. and let me tell you.. it took WAY longer than I expected.... like 5+ hours and I had the technique down fairly well. My hands are killing me anyone else have this big of an issue??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KnotHead Report post Posted January 19, 2011 The more you do this the quicker you get at it. The more your skills become apart of your braiding technique, or your kind of touch with the strings. I don't do a ton of leashes. But the more strands I use that I have not done before the more time I find it takes. But well worth it in the end product for me. B... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roo4u Report post Posted January 19, 2011 is that the over 1 under 1 6 strand? i dont like that one if you do the other pattern it is alot easier....we used to sell leashes wholesale and my mom can braid the damn things with her eyes closed....she wont do that braid...too much of a pain. i guarantee if you do the other braid you will like it as it is so much easier and easier on the hands. my mom can do a 6 foot 6 strand using the other braid in about 1 1/2 hours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RooLeadGirl Report post Posted January 19, 2011 is that the over 1 under 1 6 strand? i dont like that one if you do the other pattern it is alot easier....we used to sell leashes wholesale and my mom can braid the damn things with her eyes closed....she wont do that braid...too much of a pain. i guarantee if you do the other braid you will like it as it is so much easier and easier on the hands. my mom can do a 6 foot 6 strand using the other braid in about 1 1/2 hours. Tracy. It is the top outside strand under all to the otherside... over the strand second down.. than under the 3rd strand down.. make sense? lol. Found the video on youtube how to do it and it was easy enough... what other pattern is there? also another thing to note.. i prestretch my lace condition and bevel... When i do four strand braids (with beads.. braided under the beads) i always get a little bit of stretch.. i tried to pull this thing with all of my might.. not even the SLIGHTEST stretch.. the lead is for a 200 lb great dane.. took me like 5 hours to do a 20 inch long lead and the backbraiding was a PITA. im going to try skiving the bakcbraided part a bit when i do the collar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roo4u Report post Posted January 19, 2011 wow thats a long time to spend braiding 20 inches. the more strands you add the less stretch you will get just because you are dividing the stress even more. we used cores so never had to worry about stretch even on a four strand. the only exception was we made toy breed leads with flat handles and flat in center of collar so no core. also i had a special way to finish my leads so i didnt have to backbraid much, just enough to get the strands secured. its kinda cool cuz the way i finished was our signature, nobody else did/does it and when i see dog shows on tv i can recognize our leads. are you braiding with or without a core? let me know that and ill post a quick tutorial later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RooLeadGirl Report post Posted January 19, 2011 I braid with a core but I still get just the slightest give. Id however love some help! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roo4u Report post Posted January 20, 2011 okie dokie...i will break out the camera and take a couple of pix to show the pattern...i think you will like it better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RooLeadGirl Report post Posted January 20, 2011 your awesome. I really appreciate it tracy do you have a website? are you still braiding leads? what do you use for your core? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
broncstompinben Report post Posted January 20, 2011 I did a set of Romal Reins out of rawhide with that same braid and it started out awful, but by the time i got to the end of my nine feet it was going fairly quick.. Are you still located in Cedar City, that is where i'm at right now too, i'm no expert, but if you need some help with something or just have any questions stop by and we can talk braiding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roo4u Report post Posted January 20, 2011 no i dont currently have a website...im trying to get some new stuff done so i can pix taken. it never occurred to me to take pix of all those leads we braided....i got pix of the last batch i braided, but not very good ones. we did just plain roo....knots but never did beads. we sold them wholesale to a vendor in colo for about 3 years(until their checks started bouncing) and to a vendor in texas for about 4 years(until he got seriously ill). we are not currently doing leads as we no longer have a vendor....because of work i cant get to enough shows to make it worthwhile although i sure wish i could.....my mom did all the plain braiding and she is fast...i cut lace and set them up and finished them. i miss it. my dogs would love if i could work at home again. the core used for our 4 strand leads was harness sewing thread, doubled, nice thing about it is it didnt make the braid larger around...never had anyone break a leash...repaired a bunch of chewed ones....alot of other braiders wouldnt fix leads but it didnt bother me and so id even fix other braiders leads. here are links to some of the stuff ive posted on here: http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=2848 this is a para cord hackamore http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=3907 this is a bunch of our leashes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyout Report post Posted January 20, 2011 (edited) ... what other pattern is there? I found these three types of six strand braids a while back. Hope it helps. Leather Braiding by John Rick skyout Edited January 20, 2011 by skyout Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RooLeadGirl Report post Posted January 20, 2011 Thanks Rick! Apparently i was doing the "hard way" no wonder my hands are dying and it took me so long! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyout Report post Posted January 20, 2011 Glad it helps. Rick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RooLeadGirl Report post Posted January 20, 2011 so i started another with the "easy" method... while much quicker and easier on my hands. Im not happy with the pattern it makes. I"ll post a picture later of the two side by side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KnotHead Report post Posted January 20, 2011 This is what I was trying to say in an earlier post. It all depends on the patter you are looking for as to how hard or how easy and quick your braiding will be. If you desire the over 1, under 1 pattern then it's the hard way. If it is another pattern like under 1, over 2, or the half round braid then it's the easy and quick way. It's all dependent on the pattern you seek to use. B... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RooLeadGirl Report post Posted January 21, 2011 This is what I was trying to say in an earlier post. It all depends on the patter you are looking for as to how hard or how easy and quick your braiding will be. If you desire the over 1, under 1 pattern then it's the hard way. If it is another pattern like under 1, over 2, or the half round braid then it's the easy and quick way. It's all dependent on the pattern you seek to use. B... i guess i was figured that either way you braided it you were getting the same result. the link that was posted in his photos they look the same in the end but that could be because it was all one color. Not sure. I'm about halfway done with the second lead in brown, bronze and gold. I'll post photos side by side later tonight I'll have them both 100% complete. very big difference in the appearance of quality IMO between the two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
