Try to get a nice blackened red effect

[TheTrooper]

Dear all,

I want to make a nice blackened red effect based on Toms Tutorial:

I used Fiebings Oxblood Leather-Stain and stained the leather first.

I thought, that the Fiebings antique stain, will also stain the leather a bit black, as the Tandy antique seems to do. But it just highlights the tooling and the rest stays red.

What can I do to get also some black onto the leather ?!?

Is there maybe another Fiebing product I could use ?

Another problem I have is, that the Oxblood-Stain turns quiet pink when it dries. How can I avoid this problem ?!? Maybe I can blend it with some black dye ?!?

I hope someone of you has some hints for me.

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,

Marcel

[TomSwede]

I'd like to point out that what I do in my tutorial is to let the antique stain sit at least overnight and dry thoroughly, then I go over it with the moist cloth. This procedure smears it out rather than takes it off so you should not use the normal technique where you wipe all off. I have no idea how this technique will work with other antiques. What I used in the tutorial was Fiebing pro oil red dye first and after that was thoroughly dried I applied a rich layer oh Tandys old mahogany. It sits quite much on top of the leather when I'm done wich is also why I applied a rich coat of Fiebings leathersheene. I think the leather sheene can be buffed to a more natural shine than other acrylics I've tried and seem to withstand water quite a bit if leather gets wet.

I've never tried Fiebings stains so I can't have an opinion about that.

How about adding red dye to the stain to avoid the pinkish?? My guess is that black will turn it just darker pinkish but that is only a guess. Try with some scraps to see how it will turn out and REMEMBER write down the mixtures when you try. I use one of those lab thingies that you suck up the dye with and it is measured in milliliters wich is very good when you need to write it down.

Sidenote: adding red dye to Tandys old mahogany makes it sort of jelly like consistency, maybe stuff like that happens with Fiebings oxblood too??

Tom

[TheTrooper]

I'd like to point out that what I do in my tutorial is to let the antique stain sit at least overnight and dry thoroughly, then I go over it with the moist cloth. This procedure smears it out rather than takes it off so you should not use the normal technique where you wipe all off. I have no idea how this technique will work with other antiques. What I used in the tutorial was Fiebing pro oil red dye first and after that was thoroughly dried I applied a rich layer oh Tandys old mahogany. It sits quite much on top of the leather when I'm done wich is also why I applied a rich coat of Fiebings leathersheene. I think the leather sheene can be buffed to a more natural shine than other acrylics I've tried and seem to withstand water quite a bit if leather gets wet.

I've never tried Fiebings stains so I can't have an opinion about that.

How about adding red dye to the stain to avoid the pinkish?? My guess is that black will turn it just darker pinkish but that is only a guess. Try with some scraps to see how it will turn out and REMEMBER write down the mixtures when you try. I use one of those lab thingies that you suck up the dye with and it is measured in milliliters wich is very good when you need to write it down.

Sidenote: adding red dye to Tandys old mahogany makes it sort of jelly like consistency, maybe stuff like that happens with Fiebings oxblood too??

Tom

Hi Tom,

thanks for the hint. I will give it a try soon, and post the outcome.

Cheers,

Marcel

[KatieG]

Have you tried a hi-lite, if the antique or Tom's method don't give you quite the hue you're looking for?

[TheTrooper]

Have you tried a hi-lite, if the antique or Tom's method don't give you quite the hue you're looking for?

Hi KatieG,

thanks for the hint, I will think about it, when I tested the other things.

Mixing the Fiebings Leather Stain with the antique hasn´t worked. When I put the antique into the leather stain the antique droped out.

So its time to test something else

I will report, if I found a solution for that.

Cheers,

Marcel

[Luke Hatley]

try this mixture...........spray a base coat of Red -lightly.......then use

Fiebings ANTIQUE BLACK.i have not did it in a long time ,but i was pleased with the effect.

good luck

[TheTrooper]

try this mixture...........spray a base coat of Red -lightly.......then use

Fiebings ANTIQUE BLACK.i have not did it in a long time ,but i was pleased with the effect.

good luck

Hi Luke,

what kind of Antique did you used ?!? The acrylic stain or the paste ?!?

THX in advance.

Cheers,

Marcel