Yet Another Question On Vineagroon

[Windrider30]

Will a resist stop vineagroon from working or not figured I would ask to see if someone has already tried that.

[Wild Bill46]

Not exactly sure what you are asking ? Persey

One way I might explain your question is,

No ! Resoline is not what is recommended, to stop the vinergaroon process !

What is recommended is a baking soda bath to stop the process

I have already mixed up a jar of vinegaroon ,

but as of yet have not actually worked with vinegaroon, So at this point I'm just observing !.

However, I'm certain others will be more knowledgeable on this subject, Wild Bill46

[Windrider30]

What I mean is can I hit say a bit of tooling with a resist so that the tooling stays the same color as the leather or what ever color I want it, then just hit the rest of the piece with the vinegarroon or will the vinegarroon just change everything to black

[King's X]

Try a scrap project and report back......I would also try something stronger like lacquer.

[mlapaglia]

No it will not. As the vinegroon soaks into the leather it will cause the reaction under the resist. It might limit the reaction if you painted it on instead of dipping it but the edges would still look ragged.

Michael

[Windrider30]

Well I screwed a piece up majorly, damn design is upside down now and did not know I had the leather the wrong way around..DOH..anyways I have put 3 coats of resist (tandy's Super Sheen) over top the tooling I did, so what I am going to do is brush.not dip but brush the vingeroon over the piece and will take pictures..both before..and after so that everyone can see what it will or will not do!

[Windrider30]

Ok folks here you go, hit the skulls with three layers of super sheen let it sit for 24 hours, then hit the leather with vingarroon using a dobber to apply it, as you can see it went though the super sheen (the eyes did not have any kind of resist on them as I prefer those to go black. So there you have it..proof...

[Wild Bill46]

So what you are saying is that;

Indeed the Vinegaroon did somewhat go through the protective shield of three coats of Super Sheen ?

(However I gotta say, it gives it a great look, as if lifelike, Nice !)

But the question of Neutralizing the Vinegaroon still remains ?

should you or should you not neutralize ? ------------------------------------- Wild Bill46

[mlapaglia]

Always neutralize

[Wild Bill46]

Thank you for clearing this question up for us, Mlapaglia

Vineagroon is always neutralized after using !

And thanx for your help along the way with other projects, you've helped many others !

I appreciate you, and other giving friends, --------- Wild Bill46

[Windrider30]

Oh yeah you NEED to neutralized, I should have taken a photo but ended up getting to busy and it got chucked into the trash but if you do not neutrialize the stuff it bleeds though even MORE it nearly turned the whole thing black with just a few odd spots left untouched!

[penguineer]

So what you are saying is that;

Indeed the Vinegaroon did somewhat go through the protective shield of three coats of Super Sheen ?

(However I gotta say, it gives it a great look, as if lifelike, Nice !)

But the question of Neutralizing the Vinegaroon still remains ?

should you or should you not neutralize ? ------------------------------------- Wild Bill46

I think the point is that the vinegaroon doesn't go through the resist but around it from the sides and comes through from underneath.

Cheers!

[Wild Bill46]

Exactly my original point, Yes, Veneagroon needs to be neutralized no matter what !

Even though coated with a resist, it still needs to be neutralized !