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goatiemon

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  1. so l attached a photo if the shuttles it's not that easy to see in the photo but the new one (bottom) is about 1.5mm longer and the point shape is different it is also much bigger around, to the point that it is hard to get out of the machine but it is probably a moot point because the back lash from wear in the gears is considerable nearly 2mm wizcraft l cant find the set screw hole you are talking about? and even worse the vertical play in the needle bar is about 1mm so the fixing looks like it will involve metal work l figure l'll bore out the end of the driving lever (trussed arm across the top) and put in a sleeve any idea what sort of tolerance l should shot for with the slip fit? there is play in the roller bearing/cam wheel interface too, about a mm not sure what to do about the shuttle gears with luck the set screw is loose.... perhaps l'll try the needle bar /driving lever sleeve thing and see if that "solves the problem" for now oh and the needle bar bushing l'm talkign about is part number 8573 pic here: goat
  2. thanks for the quick replies amuckart your are right l meant mm not cm big diference l have abunch of new needles that came with the machine they are labled 136 x 16, and 135 x17 with various sizes and points for different materials they also say DPx17 (16) and are groz beckert brand l meant that the presser foot spring and lifter lever and such werent put together properly so it wasnt lifting and the needle size slide adjuster thing on the needle bar was stuck with teh needle as close to the shuttle as possible the shuttles are extremely different l'll get a pic and measurement wizcrafts l did replace the needle bar mounted thread tension spring the rack gears are not broken and the alinement hasnt changed since the machine worked fine... (the presser foot wast set up, and l didnt know how to adjust stitch length, but it made every stitch through whatever material) l took thte needle clamp /lateral adjuster piece off so no broken needle bit, and l shortened a needle (with a grinder on the base of the needle) so that it appeared to line up correctly and that didnt help l'll check the shuttle slop, and vertical needle bar play and get a pic of the shuttles thanks again goat
  3. good day l'm a tinker, love to fix things, and pretty good with sewing machines of all sorts but this is my first time playing with a patcher.... now l know these machines are old and "obsolete" and l would have been better off with 29k etc but l like this one and it is what l have and hope one of the knowledgeable folk on here can help me out any way the machine is fairly new to me and l used it with out learning any thing about it for a while sewing mostly canvas (patching military tents) the stitches were a little close together, and the foot didnt lift as high as l wanted it to but it sewed through everything l threw at it till l tried to repair a friends work boots l was sewing through a couple of layers of leather and foam so now the stitches were really tiny and l had to help the foot move the work then there was a clunk and the needle broke so l replaced the needle and lo -- it wouldnt sew any more so l started looking closely at the mechanism discovered that the foot lifter was set up all wrong (and not lifting) that the side -to-side adjustment device on the end of the needle bar was frozen as close to the shuttle as it could go that the ball-end spring on the shuttle carrier was broken that the thread tension spring (on the needle bar) was broken and that the shuttle point seemed to be blunted (just the tiniest bit) and the bobbin thread spring had a deep grove worn under it so l set the lifter up properly unstuck the needle adjuster replaced the springs (l got them form horseandharness.com) and ordered their "repair manual" as well as a shuttle the shuttle is the wrong shape -- that is, the shuttle point is too long, so it never goes into position to grab the thread (and the manual while a nice compendium of old manuals, is hardly a repair manual and a little pricy) unfortunately none of that solved the problem.... (well l figured out how to regulate stitch length and foot height) it sews fairly well through canvas and denim (still skips stitches especially on turns) and thin leather (with a somewhat over sized needle) btu even two layers of leather skip and thicker things skip to the point were they arnt even held together my best guess is that the needle bar bushings are worn out i.e. there is too much lateral play so the needle gets pushed aside by the thicker material so the shuttle hook misses the thread = no stich l measured the (needle bar) "wiggle" by poking a buisness card with the tip of the needle at the extremes of the lateral movement and the holes are a little more than a cm apart which should translate to even more possibility of movement down by the hook... so... is my hypothesis reasonable? would some one with a 29-4 please measure their needle bar wiggle for comparison? other thoughts/things to check? the obvious possibility is the timing....? which as l understand it isnt adjustable (except by replacing the cam wheel and roller l suppose) also the needle seems to go too deep the short (pick up) grove on the needle is well below the point of the hook (when the hook is supposed to be grabbing the thread loop) l tried using a shortened needle so that it lined up "right" but that didnt help could that be a timing problem too -- the needle isnt raising enough to make a good thread loop perhaps because the cam wheel is worn out? thanks for your time this got kinda long (trying to be detailed -- l'm a little frustrated can you tell) any way thanks in advance goat
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