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"Saddles of the Old West"

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Hi,

Just wondering if anyone has ever heard of a book or catalog (not sure which) put out by Fred Harsant? I think it's called "Saddles of the Old West". I have an old Chuck Stormes catalog that was sent to Fred in the 1970's, with a message offereing help in the research department for the book he was writing. I know that Fred was a saddlemaker and treemaker who apparently was interested in old saddles and did some nice work... other then that, can't seem to find anything else about him.

thanks,

Darc

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Darcy,

Apparently it was done as a booklet. A google search shows a copy in the collection of the National Cowboy and Western Heritage Museum (formerly The Cowboy Hall of Fame) in Oklahoma City. Not a lot is showing up on a search. The name is correct, it is called Saddles of the Old West. Sounds like he made some period reproduction saddles for display.

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Darcy,

Apparently it was done as a booklet. A google search shows a copy in the collection of the National Cowboy and Western Heritage Museum (formerly The Cowboy Hall of Fame) in Oklahoma City. Not a lot is showing up on a search. The name is correct, it is called Saddles of the Old West. Sounds like he made some period reproduction saddles for display.

I bought some trees from Mr Harsant It is true he was interested in the old saddles when I was first starting out he was very helpful A good man

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Darcy,

Apparently it was done as a booklet. A google search shows a copy in the collection of the National Cowboy and Western Heritage Museum (formerly The Cowboy Hall of Fame) in Oklahoma City. Not a lot is showing up on a search. The name is correct, it is called Saddles of the Old West. Sounds like he made some period reproduction saddles for display.

Hello Bruce

Fred Harsant and I corresponded for awhile some years back. Saddles of the Old West was his business or company name. When I met him he was teaching Tree and Saddle Making and one of his students lived near me and made a pretty nice tree in his class after making a saddle. Both were impressive. He had a strong accent and I believe he said he was from Australia. Someone else told me that he was a Kiwi. We exchanged many pictures and the last ones that I returned to him came back as undeliverable and I lost track of him after that.I believe he was in Colorado at that point.

I've often wondered what became of him and if anyone knows I would appreciate any information. I still have pictures that belong to him.He is a very interesting person. If I can get the pictures scanned I will post them for the group.

I gotta catch up to 21st century technology but first I have to overtake the 20th.

Blake

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We met Fred Harsant at the Sheridan show in '97 and '98. He was an Aussie. We heard a few years ago that he had passed away, but can't remember who we heard it from.

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We met Fred Harsant at the Sheridan show in '97 and '98. He was an Aussie. We heard a few years ago that he had passed away, but can't remember who we heard it from.

That is sad news to hear but thank you for the information.

I don't know if Jim McSuns was one of your clients but he passed away just a few weeks back. He worked for Price McLaughlin for many years as well as Mclellends . He was living in Williston Florida and was turning out some really nice Wade saddles. I know that he was using some trees from Swanke and Rick Reid. Somebody needs to start seriously documenting some of the old guys before they are all gone.

Blake

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Just a side note. I've got a catalog that Chuck Stormes delivered to Forrest Shoup in the late 70's. The note inside the front cover was asking for help on a book that Stormes had in the works about Visalia Saddle Co. Did Stormes ever produce such a book? Maybe he was just helping Fred?

Ryan Cope

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Ryan,

Griff Durham and Chuck were corresponding on doing the book too, but it hasn't happened yet. When Griff was down here for the cowboy museum antique roadshow this summer, I asked him because I had heard the same thing. It has kind of been back-burnered. Griff has quite a lot of Visalia stuff. He has some saddles and stuff in his collection, but the paper is what is neat. He has a binder of original shop photos they took of each saddle as it was completed in-shop for their records. Also he told me he has the engraving plates they used to print the early catalogs too. I think Greg posted a while back that Chuck Stormes recently ended up with Stanley Dias's stamping tools.

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I saw those catalogs a couple weeks back. Pretty amazing. I've heard Shoup talk quite a bit about working with Stanley. I think Shoup even employed him as tooler for a while when he went out on his own.

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