Chief31794 Report post Posted June 26, 2012 Sorry Folks, I don't spend much time in the Exotic Forum, but I have this material and it is beautiful, It is pretty large or I would tend to think it is Lizard of some type, but the pieces are cutoffs and some are 36" wide, can't tell how long it was in the other direction because something pretty big was cut out of it, looks like maybe a Brief Case or bigger. I would like to make some items and sell them but don't want to misrepresent them as being something they are not. Don't know if you can tell from the pictures but I took them of both sides of the skin. Thanks in advance, Ken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katsass Report post Posted June 26, 2012 Sorry Folks, I don't spend much time in the Exotic Forum, but I have this material and it is beautiful, It is pretty large or I would tend to think it is Lizard of some type, but the pieces are cutoffs and some are 36" wide, can't tell how long it was in the other direction because something pretty big was cut out of it, looks like maybe a Brief Case or bigger. I would like to make some items and sell them but don't want to misrepresent them as being something they are not. Don't know if you can tell from the pictures but I took them of both sides of the skin. Thanks in advance, Ken From the grump: With the size you describe, it looks like it might be cowhide embossed to replicate 'gator. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmirob Report post Posted June 28, 2012 I'd guess from the size that it was cow hide embossed to look like lizard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chief31794 Report post Posted June 28, 2012 From the grump: With the size you describe, it looks like it might be cowhide embossed to replicate 'gator. Mike Thanks Grump, I got this in a box with all real skin pieces, ray, lizard, etc. It was the only one this size. I have some embossed cowhide but the backside doesn't have the scale effect shown in the second picture so I thought this was real skin of some type. I didn't know they embossed both sides of the cowhide. It is definitely not leather, it is identical to the lizard I use except larger and prettier. Thanks for the info. Ken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chief31794 Report post Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) I'd guess from the size that it was cow hide embossed to look like lizard. Thanks mmirob, Same comments as I replied to Katsass, I don't think it's cowhide, I have some of that and the difference is astonishing. I think it's real skin, just not sure what type. I think I'll send a small piece to someone to look at, the pictures don't do it justice. I'll talk to SLC and see if they will ID it for me. Ken Edited June 28, 2012 by Chief31794 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmirob Report post Posted June 28, 2012 Thanks mmirob, Same comments as I replied to Katsass, I don't think it's cowhide, I have some of that and the difference is astonishing. I think it's real skin, just not sure what type. I think I'll send a small piece to someone to look at, the pictures don't do it justice. I'll talk to SLC and see if they will ID it for me. Ken Take a picture of the entire hide. If it is real gator or lizzard you can see where the scales and hide narrow for the legs and tail and then stop. Additionally the flesh side will be rough and less uniform. Embossed cowhide looks just like the second picture you attached. You cant really tell where the animal begins and ends on an embossed hide. This is the way the buyers of embossed hides what it so they can use all of the hide. Quality embossing looks remarkably real to anyone but those of us who have been handling and working with exotics. Lizard rarely ever gets to that size...at least that I have seen regularly sold. It does not really look like gator or croc to me. Check me on this but do a search for gator or lizard and see how they look and compare yours. Best of luck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
K-Man Report post Posted June 28, 2012 That is most definitely not lizard. Looks like american gator to me. I've had some large (8+ feet) full size hides where you would easily get large sections like what you have shown. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chief31794 Report post Posted June 28, 2012 Take a picture of the entire hide. If it is real gator or lizzard you can see where the scales and hide narrow for the legs and tail and then stop. Additionally the flesh side will be rough and less uniform. Embossed cowhide looks just like the second picture you attached. You cant really tell where the animal begins and ends on an embossed hide. This is the way the buyers of embossed hides what it so they can use all of the hide. Quality embossing looks remarkably real to anyone but those of us who have been handling and working with exotics. Lizard rarely ever gets to that size...at least that I have seen regularly sold. It does not really look like gator or croc to me. Check me on this but do a search for gator or lizard and see how they look and compare yours. Best of luck. Mmirob, Can't take a picture of the entire hide, it was remnants in an exotic skin remnant box. The piece I got was about 30" long and about 8" tall and there was a chalk line where an object had been cut from it. Ken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chief31794 Report post Posted June 28, 2012 Got a picture of gator hide from a supplier, to my untrained eye, they look identical except for the color. I've never seen embossed hides that had scale designs on flesh side. The second picture about is not a good one, it looks fuzzy, that is a grainy picture, the skin is slick smooth with scale impressions. I've sent a piece off to the supplier. He thought the picture looked like gator. Will confirm. Ken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robertmeco Report post Posted June 28, 2012 Sure looks like Gator to me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J Allen Report post Posted June 29, 2012 Belly Cut gator. The squarish panels are the actually belly. The roundish scales are the sides. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DS STRAPS Report post Posted July 7, 2012 Your a lucky man. I guess these bags are really hit or miss the one I got was a bag of very small scraps and the only good pieces were all lizard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SooperJake Report post Posted September 7, 2012 Chief, ever find out what that hide was? Jake Got a picture of gator hide from a supplier, to my untrained eye, they look identical except for the color. I've never seen embossed hides that had scale designs on flesh side. The second picture about is not a good one, it looks fuzzy, that is a grainy picture, the skin is slick smooth with scale impressions. I've sent a piece off to the supplier. He thought the picture looked like gator. Will confirm. Ken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chief31794 Report post Posted September 7, 2012 (edited) Gator, It wasn't embossed and it wasn't lizard. The guy I sent it to said it was gator belly and side. Pretty nice sized piece, I made a couple of different projects out of it. 4 magnetic money clips and 2 business card cases, one of each is in my pocket the others I sold at a craft fair. Chief Edited September 7, 2012 by Chief31794 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
