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#1 tmroper

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 11:32 PM

I usually put a frog on my rear jockeys because I have never been satisfied with my attempts at lacing them together. I would appreciate any advice on completing the task including what size holes to punch, how far btwn holes, what width lace.
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Posted 06 June 2009 - 12:18 AM

hopefully someone has some experience with lacing the jockeys together.

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Posted 06 June 2009 - 08:37 AM

well Im not the one to show you how but some day my take a little longer as they guy that can do it may be working or there battery die on there lap top. Im shere one will be by so to help


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Posted 06 June 2009 - 09:23 AM

Tmroper, I usually braid them together. The process is quite simple.

It's best if you don't edge the jockeys at the top.
use a compass and mark 3/4 inch from the edge where you going to lace.
set the compass at 3/8 inch and mark where you want the holes to be
use a #8 osborne punch , or 1/4 inch and punch holes
cut lace 5/16 wide and 2oz thick, I use latigo, it stands up the best and don't stretch much
You may need 7-8 feet
the lace is started in the middle, equal parts on both sides, at the outside edge of the jockeys
you have to use the end hole 3 times in the beginning
the other holes are used twice
the lace is weaved back and forth, over and under itself.
once your finished, lay the piece upside down on the granite and tap with a large face hammer to flatten the laces.

helpful hints
use saddle soap on the latigo strings
some guys bevel the edges, i don't.
you don't want any spaces between the laces, be sure the use the hole spacing for that size lace.
If i could find my camera this morning I'd post a picture for you.

i learned this from another saddle maker and I'm not sure if it's in a book somewhere. Chances are it is.

Hope this helps

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Posted 27 June 2009 - 05:49 AM

Before you lace them together I was taught to lace the skirts together with waxed thread. I put the holes close to the edge and 3/4- 1" apart. This tends to keep the braiding from coming loose over time, as the skirts will be pulling on the thread not the lacing. I also braid them with two pieces of lace instead of on. I can't describe the method but the next time I do one I'll take a pic.
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Posted 28 June 2009 - 01:11 AM

I would not know how to do it.
But obvioulsly the saddle maker who wrote an tutorial "some" time ago in Western Horseman Magazine knew it. So here it goes.

Hope it helps.

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Posted 02 August 2009 - 07:46 PM

Bob Land at Okanagan Saddlery does beautiful rawhide lace work on saddles.

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Posted 02 August 2009 - 11:31 PM

These photos show one of my students as she makes a sample piece of Appliqué braiding prier to doing a fork cover on her saddle
Photo I shows hole spacing, this must be set precisely to the width & thickness of the lace you are going to use.

Photo 2 showing back side of lace pattern

Photo 3 starting lace into hole to go to front side


Photo 4 showing front side of lace pattern

Photo 5 shows the path of the string on the left going to the right

Photo 6 shows the path of the string on the right going to the left

Photo 6 shows the finished braid pattern

Please bare with me as this is my first attempt at uploading photos hopefully they will appear

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Posted 02 August 2009 - 11:46 PM

I will add the photos as soon as I can figure out how to upload to this site, in the meantime tmroper if you or anyone else, want to email me via my web site I will send you the information along with the photos by return email.

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 01:41 PM

These photos show one of my students as she makes a sample piece of Appliqué braiding prier to lacing a back jockey on her saddle
Photo I shows hole spacing, this must be set precisely to the width & thickness of the lace you are going to use.I usually use 1.5oz Rawhide lace 1/4 inch wide (it will take 6ft of lace to make 5 inches of Appliqué braid)
Do not edge the jockeys at the top,
Make a compass mark 1/4 inch in from edge of jockey
Mark holes on 7/16 centers along this line, (I use a oval !/8 inch hole punch, with a very thin wall so as not to spread the top of the hole)
Burnish the edge as per. your normal way up to where the lacing starts.
Now stitch the edges of the jockeys together with thread & needle, making sure that the holes are directly across from each other.

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Make sure the 6 ft Rawhide lace is well tempered and that you have saddle soaped it well.

You are now ready to start lacing.
Photo 2 showing back side of lace pattern

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Photo 3 starting lace into hole to go to front side

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Photo 4 showing front side of lace pattern

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Photo 5 shows the path of the string on the left going to the right

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Photo 6 shows the path of the string on the right going to the left

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Photo 7 shows the path of the string on the left going under the string next to it & continuing to the hole on the left.

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