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#16 LNLeather

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 10:25 PM

I've seen people use these shop presses before for die cutting of leather but for stamping purposes, how would you know when you have enough pressure on the leather?

Damon


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Practice on scraps first. Probably depends on different pieces of leather, casing, and emboss plate design. When using a cutting die it is easy, as you said. Embossing takes just a little practice and you'll get the feeling for how long it takes. On some of the plates I use I'll hold it down for 10 to up to 30 seconds...

It also helps to have something under the piece of leather you want to emboss, the size of the emboss plate - to help with the embossing process and to help push the leather up into the emboss plate. I use a piece of 9/10 oz leather.
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Posted 05 January 2011 - 09:40 AM

Limited space, limited budget, so I just use a C-clamp.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 08:17 AM

Limited space, limited budget, so I just use a C-clamp.


Wow! That is a very clever idea! I wouldn't have thought of that.
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 04:13 PM

I had previously used the 1 ton from Harbor Freight and it was fair but having physical limitations I looked around and found a 2 ton with ratcheting handle at Northern Tools. Perhaps other have the same tool but have not bothered to look any further.

It has been great and I user steel plates, top of the work and bottom when clicking small items. Largest I hade cut so far is 2" rosette, using a clicker die from Weaver. The ratcheting feature was a real plus for me and the increased capacity has been great.


Have thought about having 3/8" hole drilled in center of shaft as others have done but still undecided. Needs a good base as the machine weighs in @ 100 pounds.

Just thought I would share and hope you find a machine to do the trick. I also use a 12 ton floor mounted press from Harbor, for clicking larger items or stamping with larger custom stamps.



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Posted 14 April 2012 - 05:10 PM

have any of you fine folks used or is using the Arbor Press from Harbor Frieght
to emboss 3-d stamps with? and were you satisified with it ?


Mine is a Palmgren 1 ton Arbor Press that holds the stamps with a magnet. When we broke the magnet, had to order industrial strength online. Otherwise, I'm very satisfied with the Palmgren. I think a lot of people use the Harbor Frieght press and I've seen mixed reviews, so I don't know how well it works. My cased leather works best when it is on the wet side. Just a little tip. If you want to compare, take a look at the Palmgren.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:50 PM

I am not pleased with the Harbor Tools Press..If i could trade it in for a RATCHING PRESS i would...I M H O ...
I beleive i could get more pressure from the ratching one.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 08:15 PM

There are more expensive hydraulic presses on the market - one in particular is sold by Northern Tools. It has a pressure gauge on top so that once you find the "best" pressure on a run you can duplicate it time and again with no problem. It runs about $280.

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I've seen people use these shop presses before for die cutting of leather but for stamping purposes, how would you know when you have enough pressure on the leather?

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 09:46 PM

I am not pleased with the Harbor Tools Press..If i could trade it in for a RATCHING PRESS i would...I M H O ...
I beleive i could get more pressure from the ratching one.


I totally agree with Luke. "If i could trade it in for a RATCHETING PRESS I would"
I bought the 1/2 ton Harbor Freight Press for use in the house, thinking I could work on small projects with it.
But it is way too much frustration to get it to do what I want. I haven't used it for at least 10 months.
I just use my Clicker for all jobs now, large and small.

It sounds like the ratcheting press would be much better. Or who knows, I might just try using a C-clamp like Gawdzilla - really!

BTW Harbor Freight is having a sale and the 12 Ton Shop Press is only $129.99 and the
20 ton is only $199.99. There is also a 6 Ton A-Frame Bench Shop Press for $79.99 that looks interesting.
Amazon also has the Northern Industrial Arbor Shop Press With Ratchet Handle for $179.99 remember that is Plus shipping

Watch out - Buyer Beware - over on EBAY - it looks like someone is trying to sell a plain Arbor Press as one that has a ratchet handle for only $39.95


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Posted 14 April 2012 - 10:39 PM

I'm going to the Northern Tool store next week, Hopefully they have one in stock. I'm not going to pay $60.00+for shipping.
thanks for your input.
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Posted 15 April 2012 - 01:47 PM

I have a 2 ton arbor press similar to the Harbor Freight one you are discussing and find it very adequate for my needs providing I use an extension bar and crank it down nice and hard. The down side is that the press needs to be VERY firmly anchored to the bench... yup, I turned mine over lol!

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 03:04 PM

I have a 2 ton arbor press similar to the Harbor Freight one you are discussing and find it very adequate for my needs providing I use an extension bar and crank it down nice and hard. The down side is that the press needs to be VERY firmly anchored to the bench... yup, I turned mine over lol!

Ray


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What is the largest size plate you use for embossing? I have a customer that has a specific logo they will be using on all their products. So I've been waffling between a 2 and 3 ton arbor press.

Thanks

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 04:20 PM

I have used a three inch disk but got best results with smaller. I mainly use it for 1.5" x 1" oval stamps for logos

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 09:40 AM

Seems like an awful lot of machine for a small stamp. I suppose if you have the room and want to save some money...
All this work is getting in the way of me goofing off.

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:26 PM

I have used a three inch disk but got best results with smaller. I mainly use it for 1.5" x 1" oval stamps for logos

Ray


Indeed, larger stamps of regular thickness (around 8mm) tend to crook after prolong pressing by small arbor press. Smaller stamps under 1.5x1.5 inches will be perfect.

We now provide thicker material (20-25mm) for larger stamps to avoid the problem. But still, it's better to have a larger arbor press (with a larger pressing head) for more even emboss.
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 04:44 PM

I don't know if I'm old school or just cheap, but I just use a table top vice that I bought at Harbor Freight for $20 (see picture attached).

It takes 10 seconds to emboss a piece of leather and I get a deep, crisp, perfectly placed impression every time.

The vice takes up less than 1 sq ft of shelf space.......much less than the 20 ton A-frame......and no compressor is needed!! And trust me, I'm not the Hulk, so you don't need to be super strong to crank this up.

I'm attaching a few pictures of bigger embossing dies that I have made......so anything under 2" should be no problem whatsoever.

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