Jump to content


Photo

Not Happy With Acrylic Resolene


  • Please log in to reply
4 replies to this topic

#1 Eldorado

Eldorado

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 72 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Colorado
  • Leatherwork Specialty:Armor, Pouches, Wine Transporteurs
  • Interested in learning about:Pretty Much Everything

Posted 12 May 2011 - 11:26 AM

So, I decided to use Acrylic Resolene from Tandy as a top coat on some custom work. I have been using Leather Sheen.

I dyed the pieces made of 5oz vegtan (they go to a purse) with 35% Fiebings Medium Brown spirit dye and 65% denatured alcohol and they looked ok. When I applied the resolene (after 24 hours of drying) it mottled the color - splotches, light areas, yuck. Ruined the pieces and I had to start over. It also turned the back of a matching belt an olive green color. I ended up painting the back of the belt with acrylic paint and spraying it with a clear craft finish. Thank God I didnt do the topside of the belt first, 57" x 1.5" belt leather is expensive.

It even messed with the color density of some USMC black pieces I did for a different project.

Anyone else get this result? Is this somehow a defective batch or does resolene have something against spirit dyes?
P. Bowie Coleman, Renaissance Designer
Tudor Rose Leather Workshop
www.tudorroseleather.com
tudorroseleather@live.com

#2 BigRiverLeather

BigRiverLeather

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 296 posts
  • Leatherwork Specialty:Gun Leather
  • Interested in learning about:All aspects of gun leather
  • How did you find leatherworker.net?:looking for information on a Tippman Boss through google

Posted 16 May 2011 - 09:19 AM

How are you applying it? Browns used to be quite frustrating for me. If I'm concerned about the consistency of the color and using resolene, I'll airbrush it with my cheap harbor freight airbrush kit.

I've been using Leather Sheen mixed about 50/50 with water. I wanted to get the Angelus finish but it could not be shipped in the winter. I went to Tandy and the only other thing they had besides resolene was the Leather Sheen. I himmed and hawed a bit, they said it was not as glossy as the resolene, but the kicker was when they told me that they like how fast it dried. This is exactly what I wanted. I've been very pleased with the relusts. BTW, I dip mine.

I'm glad to be away from resolene. Even when applied in thin coats it was still far to tacky for me and seemed to require much more drying time. Sometimes it would take a week for the tackiness to go away, or I would end up shipping it still a bit tacky which I did not like. I use it occassionaly now. If I want more of a glossy finish I will airbrush some on after my standard procedure.

I'm about ready for more, and wondering if I should go back to the original plan and get the Angelus, or stick with what is working for me.
Big River Leather
Posted Image

#3 Eldorado

Eldorado

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 72 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Colorado
  • Leatherwork Specialty:Armor, Pouches, Wine Transporteurs
  • Interested in learning about:Pretty Much Everything

Posted 17 May 2011 - 08:32 AM

How are you applying it? Browns used to be quite frustrating for me. If I'm concerned about the consistency of the color and using resolene, I'll airbrush it with my cheap harbor freight airbrush kit.

I've been using Leather Sheen mixed about 50/50 with water. I wanted to get the Angelus finish but it could not be shipped in the winter. I went to Tandy and the only other thing they had besides resolene was the Leather Sheen. I himmed and hawed a bit, they said it was not as glossy as the resolene, but the kicker was when they told me that they like how fast it dried. This is exactly what I wanted. I've been very pleased with the relusts. BTW, I dip mine.

I'm glad to be away from resolene. Even when applied in thin coats it was still far to tacky for me and seemed to require much more drying time. Sometimes it would take a week for the tackiness to go away, or I would end up shipping it still a bit tacky which I did not like. I use it occassionaly now. If I want more of a glossy finish I will airbrush some on after my standard procedure.

I'm about ready for more, and wondering if I should go back to the original plan and get the Angelus, or stick with what is working for me.


I've tried a number of ways of application. My friend and mentor initially told me to use a wool dauber and that put way too much on the piece. I couldnt control the foaming action and it some completely saturated the piece that there was no telling what would happen to the color. Mottled is a nice term, it even turned the top a bit green. So i shifted to a small make-up sponge. That cut down dramatically on the saturation, but it still messed with the color. I had some success with using a craft paint brush in terms of control, but that turned the back of my belt quite green and I had to paint acrylic over it.

As you suggest, I'm beginning to think my issue is just with the brown spirit dyes. As I think about it, I've mostly used Tan, Mahogany, Black, and Ox Blood up until now. These definitely behave differently than the Fiebings brown series (light, medium, dark). Maybe it isnt technique so much as a different chemical behavior in this color set.

I've been very pleased with Leather Sheen, I've worn the armor that is in my signature in the rain and the leather has been fine. LS does seem to have some tendency to crack in flexible areas, which is why I was looking into Resolene as a more flexible finish. I use the spray Leather Sheen and the biggest issue I have is sometimes it gunks in the nozzle and a big glob comes spraying out. If I'm quick I can recover and wipe off the piece, but if not the piece is ruined.
P. Bowie Coleman, Renaissance Designer
Tudor Rose Leather Workshop
www.tudorroseleather.com
tudorroseleather@live.com

#4 katsass

katsass

    Leatherworker.net Regular

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,499 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Mojave Desert, California
  • Interests:Older firearms, Trap shooting, Western history
  • Leatherwork Specialty:holsters - gunbelts - items for shooting sports
  • Interested in learning about:inlays - Holster design
  • How did you find leatherworker.net?:by accident

Posted 17 May 2011 - 09:26 AM

So, I decided to use Acrylic Resolene from Tandy as a top coat on some custom work. I have been using Leather Sheen.

I dyed the pieces made of 5oz vegtan (they go to a purse) with 35% Fiebings Medium Brown spirit dye and 65% denatured alcohol and they looked ok. When I applied the resolene (after 24 hours of drying) it mottled the color - splotches, light areas, yuck. Ruined the pieces and I had to start over. It also turned the back of a matching belt an olive green color. I ended up painting the back of the belt with acrylic paint and spraying it with a clear craft finish. Thank God I didnt do the topside of the belt first, 57" x 1.5" belt leather is expensive.

It even messed with the color density of some USMC black pieces I did for a different project.

Anyone else get this result? Is this somehow a defective batch or does resolene have something against spirit dyes?




FWIW from a grumpy old man: My normal finish for years (40+?) is a 50/50 mix of 'Mop and Glow' and water, misted on warm leather with an airbrush. I allow a first coat to absorb and dry, then add a second. I emphasize MIST ON. I finish with a light coat of neutral Kiwi shoe polish worked in with my fingers (no rag, applicator etc.) Buff to a mellow sheen. It has worked great on holsters for all this time. Mike

Edited by katsass, 17 May 2011 - 09:26 AM.

NOTE TO SELF: Never try to hold a cat and an operating Dust buster at the same time!!

At my age I find that I can live without sex..........but not without my glasses.
Being old has an advantage.......nobody expects me to do anything in a hurry.

#5 JoelR

JoelR

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 279 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Central Pennsylvania
  • Leatherwork Specialty:Holsters
  • Interested in learning about:Custom molded holsters, Tooling, Belts, Biker gear
  • How did you find leatherworker.net?:Google Search

Posted 07 June 2011 - 08:48 AM

Never had a problem with molting, but recently I have been having an issue with it rubbing off when airbrushed on. I'm starting to think that it hits the leather too dry and does not "soak" in when airbrushed. Thinking of switching to katsass's Mop-n-glow mix or the 1:1:1 mix of beeswax, neetsfoot, and parafin wax. May try the leather sheen as dipping seems a heck of a lot easier, faster and more consistant than brushing or spraying and BigRiverLeather has always had a nice finish look to his holsters. Too many options and not enough time to try them all...
By the end of the show you start telling them you keep a few head of steers behind the house and go out and carve off a strip when you need it, it grows back in 5 or 6 weeks. - Art

JR





Similar Topics Collapse

0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users