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Tjena Trox No Machine yet.. Leather Machine Company recieved the funds the 7 of feb., were going to send the machine the week after. Shipping 20-22 days. Since then promising to send it once in a while after me asking. Today they tell me they have send it this morning and it´s going to take 39 days to Malmö. This was not what I expected. I hope that the machine is nice. Delete

Tja Trox Our VAT is also 25% but toll is 10%. Thievs! I got the syncronizer in the box. It says in the manual that if you put the motor/machine ratio 1:1 you don´t need the syncronizer. Then I thought that it can be calibrated with other gear ratio. I got the motor running now but I might need some reading help further on. On lowest you can make one stitch in a century. And you can sew threw 18 mm norwegian plywood! Without jokes it feels strong on low speed. The machine is gonna be moved around and used as a mobile unit. Everything mechanical will be one unit as on the pimped Adler 120. I have watched those movieclips 10 times today. That´s a strong machine! Got this speed controller thing you connect to a rod to the pedal. But shouldnt there be a pedal for loose use with the speed controller built in? It will take some time. Will be away for some days. Thanks! http://www.imca.net/Sites/Imca/files/manuali70M.pdf

If there´s gonna be a external synchronizer and that little italian speed reducer, that Trox showed this morning, I will use the v-belt. I really wonder were I can get that piece. If it´s needed.. The motor, 750W seem to have very high torque on low r.p.m. At the moment the issue is to bring life in the motor. It´s so new that I can´t find any discussions about it. And the literature is written in a language (english) for sewing machine enginers. And Trox.. The Shipping/handling from California-Sweden was 300$. I will get back with pictures, and info. about what the customs comes up with. But that should be 35% in VAT/toll if i´m unlucky. If you want to try and have your paths by you are welcome. quote name='Trox' timestamp='1329113850' post='234042'] Hi Wiz It might work, but I do not understand why he cannot use a V belt like the rest of us. There is nothing special about it, only that he should use it in a boat and mount the motor on the back to save space. He will not sew very thick, handbags and such. A V-belt, the right size and profile type will work just fine. Trox

Hi W Maybe that could work. One thing is that it coould create mechanical noise. Thanks Mattias

Hi Trox Hope you enjoy your new computer by now. Steve and his men were out on some expo i Arizona but he send me a mail that they recieved the money and were gonna send the machine next week. I guess it will take a couple of weeks before it shows up. Really looking forward. You can for shure find worse people doing buisnis with. I am amazed that not more companies have that way of meeting up with customers. Yes the ESP is important I have understod and it has. Also solenoid presserfotlift and a lot of other things. I already have the motor but I can tell you I don´t understand anything yet. It´s a COMPUTER!. Have to invite a programmer friend, for dinner, I guess. Can´t even get it running. The idea is to mount the motor on the back of the machine. Flatbelt with teeth for minimal wheel on the motor. Teeth for no slip, built in syncronizer in the motor. Maybe there has to be an external, I hope not. http://www.imca.net/ho-hsing/products/i-70-series Had been bothering IMCA (Global) so much that I felt like buying the motor from them. Also a very nice company. Actually you led me to them also. I just liked the Cobra head more. I will send some pics. when Santa has been here. All best Tjenere Mattias, Good choise, make sure you order a motor with ESP ( position). and 220v. Steve is the best Guy you can buy from. It is importent that the Dealer will support you, even when you live so far away as we do. Steve will Do just that, thats his "thing". Pls tell me what you have to pay for the shipping and the Swedish handling, when you know so. You can send me a PM or a mail. How long do you have to wait for the machine? Or did he have one in stock. I have never used a cutting machine like that, I work mostly with leather using my head knife. It's looks very modern and with out cord too, great deal. I will be with out ISP some days, because of changing to a new one. I am currently using my phone, it is a hustle. Send me a picture when you receive your new Cobra machine. Good luck. Thanks, Trox quote name='GONG' timestamp='1328394273' post='232789'] Tjena Trox You have told me a lot of valuable information. Thanks! It´s big that you´re not pissed that we colonized you. I ordered a Cobra 4 from Steve and his cowboy mates. I just couldn´t resist when I saw that picture. Can you get more cool? But the machine seem nice and also improved. Thank´s for the tip! The bags I sew are heavy duty. Thickest imaginable canvas and leaver. And thick webbing. I make tool bags and bags for heavy equipement. Also if you want to look more manly you can have them. If it gets to thin then I can use a Durkopp 239 that I bought on an add. It misses a couple of pieces but it really looks brand new. Looking for an exploded view picture on it so the right parts can be ordered. I bought an Eastman 134 cutter on a flea market yesterday but it´s so big. Have you tried this? (picture) Again Thanks a lot. GONG

Tjena Trox You have told me a lot of valuable information. Thanks! It´s big that you´re not pissed that we colonized you. I ordered a Cobra 4 from Steve and his cowboy mates. I just couldn´t resist when I saw that picture. Can you get more cool? But the machine seem nice and also improved. Thank´s for the tip! The bags I sew are heavy duty. Thickest imaginable canvas and leaver. And thick webbing. I make tool bags and bags for heavy equipement. Also if you want to look more manly you can have them. If it gets to thin then I can use a Durkopp 239 that I bought on an add. It misses a couple of pieces but it really looks brand new. Looking for an exploded view picture on it so the right parts can be ordered. I bought an Eastman 134 cutter on a flea market yesterday but it´s so big. Have you tried this? (picture) Again Thanks a lot. GONG

Tjenere Trox Thanks again, your information and your links really put me forward in this. It was incouraging to see pictures of your work. I´m going to use the machine for making bags in leather and canvas (50/50). Coming from another branch has thought me that I want to produce my own things and sell them directly to the user that can start using them at once. Don´t even have to give them a bag to carry it home with. I need one machine that can do as many tasks as possible. My workshop is a boat. The things that are important in priority order.. As thick thread as possible. (estethic) Long stithes. Slim under arm. (preferably diagonal as the shoe machine under). Slim or compact design. The motor is gonna be mounted on the back of the machine. It´s gonna be moved around a lot. Thickness capacity is something that I can negotiate if it´s necessary. What I like with the 441 is the openness. The 205.. is more clumsy were you suppose to have your face all day. Starting to melt a little bit about the Cobra machine. I can order it I can also find out more and save up more money, if there is a machine more optional. http://www.mecval.com/index.php?topic=machinery&cat=sewing⊂=cs+93+s&plang=en http://www.imca.net/ho-hsing/products/HVP-70-series Can I ask if there is a trade fair anywhere (not US or Asia) that has machines. It´s so mutch to learn. Been studying on the internet for months now. But sewing machines are not like steam-engines. People don´t nerd out on them as on mopeds or djonk rigs. All best Mattias The Sieckpage was nice. Do you know any other really big dealers in northern Europe.

Tjenere Trox! Wow Thanks dude! I will never tell a norwegian joke again it feels like.. For shure I´m interested in the used one if you´re not. It´s true.. The machine head is ex. works, ex. VAT (25%) 56.000 sek. And that´s negotiated from 59. Forget that I will buy it in Sweden! I´ve heard that some things actually swedes go and get in Norway. Guns are classic offcourse. I have tested a Durkopp-Adler 205-307 at a dealer. It was nice. We drove full speed on four layers of webbing together 15 mm. There was a EFKA 670W motor on it. He said that the new generation servo motors don´t need a speed reducer. I´m new in this so they can tell me anything and I belive it. But it was strong and extremly slow or really fast, and no steps what I could feel. Think he used 6# thread. Anyway I think the Juki tsc-441 looks neater. And the Durkopp was 75.000sek complete + VAT 25%. Haha. Looking forward to hear more!

Thanks Trox and Art Finally remembered my password. Thanks for your nice replies! I´ve decided to buy an original Juki tsc-441. My products (obviously my designs) have been cloned and that didn´t feel good. Do you know a Juki dealer that keep low prices? I can easily drive to Norway to get it. Is it 32-35.000 + VAT? Got a price from Poland.. 3600 E + VAT 23%. From the States (5200 USD) Prices Juki tsc-441 head only. All Best GONG

Thank´s guys! I refresh my question since I don´t know the language in this yet. I wan´t to buy an original machine. Are there Japaneese and American made Jukis? My original question.. Hi Leatherworkers. I´ve been spending thousand of hours on the internet finding out about witch sewing machine would be the best for my projects. The conclusion is the japanese Juki tsc-441. Heard that the US Jukis are crapier than the Japans, could that be true? There is one catch though.. I´m not a wealthy guy and only the head is 70.000 skr here in Sweden. And then a 220 v servo motor witch has good power on top. Does anyone know were in the world I can order this machine at a lower cost? Or were there might be used ones? Would be so thankful for some guiding in this.. Mattias liljaoffshore@gmail.com

Hi Leatherworkers. I´ve been spending thousand of hours on the internet finding out about witch sewing machine would be the best for my projects. The conclusion is the japanese Juki tsc-441. Heard that the US Jukis are crapier than the Japans, could that be true? There is one catch though.. I´m not a wealthy guy and only the head is 70.000 skr here in Sweden. And then a 220 v servo motor witch has good power on top. Does anyone know were in the world I can order this machine at a lower cost? Or were there might be used ones? Would be so thankful for some guiding in this.. Mattias