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Question what type of formula do you folks use on your Edge braiding, Another words how much length of lace do you need to cover 1". 1to 4 Edge braiding = length of lace needed 1 to 7= 1 to 8= And so on.

Doses anyone know where I can fine a pattern for a Zippo lighter sheath ?

Dose anyone have a leather sheath pattern for a BK7 that I could get from you? Many thanks.

A few years back I asked for some information on braids and plats unfortunately I had no response for this inquiry. So that set me up on a quest to find the information that I was seeking, it took me a couple of years to find this information. And now I'm determined to share this information with the knotting & braiding world. Without further ado and it is. Sequences For The Following Braids or Plaits For a 8 strand braid the sequence is O2, U2 {without a core the braid will be square with a core the braid will be round.} Also for another 8 strand round braid you can use this sequence U1, O2, U1 the rest of the information I have here please feel free to correct me if I’m wrong. for a 4 strand braid the sequence is U1, O1 for a 6 strand braid the sequence is {U1, O1, U1 checkerboard pattern}{U1,O2,U2,O1 Herringbone for a 8 strand round braid the sequence is U1, O1, U1, O1 or U1, O2, U1 for a 8 strand herringbone or square braid the sequence is O2, U2 for a 8 strand gaucho braid the sequence is 1. R to L: U2, O2 2. L to R: O1, U2, O1 3. R to L: O2, U2 4. L to R: U1, O2, U1 for a 10 strand braid the sequence is U1, O2, U2 for a 12 strand braid the sequence is U2, O2, U2 or U2, O1, U1, O2 or O3, U3 for a 16 strand braid the sequence is O2, U2, O2, U2 or U3, O1, U1, O3 for a 18 strand braid the sequence is U1, O2, U2, O2, U2 or U3, O3, U3 for a 20 strand braid the sequence is U4, O1, U1, O4 for a 24 strand braid the sequence is U4, O2, U2, O4 for a 26 strand braid the sequence is U1, O4, U2, O2, U4 For The 9,13,&17 Strand Flat Sennit Or Trenza Patria The Argentines Favorite Braid The center V seems to be more pronounced in the odd numbers. With any of these braids it is important that the outer crossing needs to be at least U3 or O3 to produce a nice square edge. Rather than being a true flat sennit as Clifford Ashley's term, You can think of this family of braids as rectangular rather than flat. Done in rawhide they do lay a lot flatter , but in a round cord/twine they are a very pronounced rectangle. For the 9 strand flat sennit, the sequence would be O2, U2, but variations would also work. The 13 strand flat sennit is O3 U3 Reversing the sequence will work when using O3 U1, or O1 U3. It will keep either the inside small, or the outside small, meaing the lines are closer together with less visibility of the layer on the bottom. For the 17 strand flat sennit, or trenza patria the Argentines favorite braid. the sequence is O4, U4 For the 17 strand flat sennit, keep 9 in your left hand, and 8 in your right. Top strand in the left hand goes OVER the first 4, and UNDER the next 4 strands on the left. Then on the right, the top strand goes OVER 4 and UNDER the next four. This completes one sequence. The next pass, the top strand in the left hand goes U4, O4, and on the right hand it goes U4, O4. The sequence begins to look like this... LEFT RIGHT O4, U4 to right O4, U4 back to left U4, O4 to right U4, O4 back to left O4, U4 to right O4, U4 back to left U4, O4 to right U4, O4 back to left O4, U4 to right O4, U4 back to left U4, O4 to right U4, O4 back to left O4, U4 to right O4, U4 back to left U4, O4 to right U4, O4 back to left The ninth strand goes back and forth from the left hand to the right hand, alternating the over under sequence.

Here you go hope this helps

Thank you guys for the kind comments. I had some scrap leather laying around so I decided to make something out of it. Know that I know what i'm doing next time i'll use better leather.

I finished this one too.

I finshed it.

Thanks for the kind comment. If you're looking for some kangaroo lace the best place to purchase it would be through Brian Kidd at Knot Heads World Wide.net he can hook you up with some good kangaroo lace for the best price you can get anywhere. He has a connection in Australia where he gets his kangaroo hides at a discount. Brian is a member of this forum also, he might just chime in.

Well folks this is how I spent my Christmas Eve night and my Christmas night. I have been wanting to do this for such a long time and I had some free time and I had some scrap leather so I decided to do a little Mexican basket weave braid. Haven't decided what braid I want to do on the inside of the bracelet. Can't wait till I can get my hands on some good whiskey tan kangaroo hide so that I can do some nice braiding. Any comments or critiques are welcome.

Braids I lost my information sheet on my braids, and I was just wondering if you kind folks could help me out with the sequences in each one of these braids. for a 8 strand braid the sequence is O2, U2 {without a core the braid will be square with a core the braid will be round.} Also for another 8 strand braid you can use this sequence U1, O2, U1 the rest of the information I have here I’m not too sure about please feel free to correct me if I’m wrong. for a 10 strand round braid the sequence is U1, O2, U2 for a 12 strand round braid the sequence is U2, O2, U2 for a 16 strand round braid the sequence is O2, U2, O2, U2 for a 18 strand round braid the sequence is U1, O2, U2, O2, U2 for a 20 strand round braid the sequence is ? for a 24 strand round braid the sequence is ? for a 26 strand round braid the sequence is ? any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated.

K-Man I sent you a PM about the dies

Have you had a chance to go down and pick them up yet?

Thanks so much Ken

Where can I find info on how to do double loop lacing?

Does anyone know how this is done, or have a tutorial on how this is done? any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated.

Enrique what is the least amount of thongs that can be used and still maintain this type of braid? Thanks in advance, Russell

Enrique , yes please, pictures would be great. After I see how it's done I might be able to come up with some kind of way to make the back look like the front. But yes Enrique pictures will do just fine. Thanks so very much for the help. Russell

Is your stitching pony still for sale? Russell

Thanks so much Brian and George, now it comes to me after reading your post it looks like a fancy lashing rather than a knot. George I to thought that there was two different patterns. Brian I to have seen this video, you know me Mr. download and Mr. save as. Thank both of you guys and if you come across something please let me know. I think this one may be one of those trial and error projects for me. But once again thanks so much for the help, you guys are great. Russell

Well folks I'm back again asking for help again. What I need help with is as you can see in the pictures is the knot that is holding the cross together. Does anyone have a tutorial on this knot or some kind of instructions or something? Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Russell

I don't know if this is the right post to ask this question or questions on softening rawhide but since it was brought up I'll go with the flow. First I have 45 feet of Buffalo rawhide cut in 1/2" wide, what I would like to know is should I tried to split it into thongs while it is still very stiff or should I softening it first? What kind of paste would you folks recommend for softening rawhide? I know this might sound crazy but what do you folks think of using aloe vera to soften the rawhide, do you think it will work? I use aloe vera whenever I get a sunburn and it works great. Like I said I know it sounds crazy but it's just a thought. Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated. Russell

Enrique Thank's so very much for the info.

Enrique, would you be so kind to share the sequence of this beautiful braid for of us? Oh I also received your book and I just love it. Please let me know if you decide to write another one because I will want one. Thanks in advance Russell

No problem, if I'm not mistaken from what I can understand in this new book he has put together his first two books and lots of extras altogether in this new book. I also have his first two books and I find them very informative. But this book he had the pictures professionally done and the binding professionally done. I think this might be the Argentine Book of Knots just kidding on that but that sounds like that would make a great name for a book, who knows he might name his next book that. Well one can wish, and one of my wishes was fulfilled I got his third book.