thanks for answering me. The problem I have is that I am worried that I won't make back the money I spent on the machine as I predominantly make dog collars that rarely require stitching. It is a new venture into horse gear that I really need the sewing machine for. I think I really need to find a used machine but it is so hard to know if it is in good shape. I am in Canada and I have never seen any machines for sale ever that sew that thickness in leather. Would you have any suggestions of any reputable places that sell used machines like the cowboy?