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  1. This is part two of many posts like this until I find a machine for me and get a handle more on leather machine sin gnereal. It’s rare that a nice used cylinder arm machine becomes available around here. I’ve started prototyping bag patterns to sell. Both vegtan and chrome tanned. I've posted about Pfaff and other cylinder arm machines available on Craigslist previously. Spotted this machine available nearby. Has anyone used a Necchi cylinder arm machine for leather bag making? This is the Necchi 840-100 model. Looks brand new despite its age. It’s a lower barrier to entry for me rather than a new machine, but obviously there’s no warranty. Seller says they have spare parts and manual. Clearly I’d need to add a servo and speed reducer. Question: 1. how rare are these parts? 2. Is this a good machine for a person like me? 3. what do you think it’s worth? Any info is helpful. Thanks.
  2. Hello! We are a small leather goods manufacturer and we are consolidating our machine inventory! We have several industrial machines available. All machines are in used, working condition and are sold as-is. They have all been in use in a production facility most recently in December 2018. Please DM me if you would like more information in regard to pricing and photos. Please make an offer! If you are in the Twin Cities area, we would be happy to coordinate a showing for you. Please arrange your own pick up/delivery/shipping - we have a loading dock for convenience. Cash only. We have the following machines for sale: Leather Machinery Fortuna 3443 Band Knife Splitter United-Carr M 235 Kickpress Judson L. Thomson 21. 2776 Kickpress Prym Press Pneumatic Snap Setter Schaefer TC 15 Topside Cementer Franklin Imprinting Machines A11593041 Hot Stamper Kwik Print 425 Hot Stamper Central Machine 37151 Metal Cutting Band Saw (x2) WSK PP-34F Pneumatic Embossing Machine (x2) USM Emhart Clicker Model B Brute Eastman Class 627 Table Knife Royersford Excelsior No. 10 Kickpress United-Carr M235 Kickpress Sewing Machinery (x3) Adler 267 Walking Foot - $900 Consew 206RB Walking Foot - $700 Consew 227R Walking Foot Cylinder Arm - $1,400 (x2) Juki LU-563 Walking Foot - $900 Juki DLN-415-4 Needle Feed, 220V - $750 (x5) Seiko STH-8BLD-3 Walking Foot - $900 (x2) Seiko LSWN-8BL-3 Walking Foot - $1,100 Seiko LSWN-8BL-3 Walking Foot, HEAD ONLY - $700 Singer 111W151 Needle Feed - $500 NEW - Typical GC2263V Walking Foot Cylinder Arm - $2,000 Thank you for your interest!
  3. aaronthearcher

    Fercdco pro 2000, Adler 30, Stimpson riveter

    Listing for a 96 year old retired leatherworker and saddlemaker in Northern California. The ferdco has a ton of accessories I’ve included one page of the original invoice. The sewing machines are low hour and well maintained as for prices let me know about prices I don’t want my friend to get ripped off or taken advantage of, or maybe his prices are too high, any advice is appreciated. I'm sure any of these machines would come with any of their accessories like rivets, thread, needles, and anything else he has for them, He's been selling everything in his shop. Pics Ferdco $3500 Adler $2500 Stimpson riveter $850
  4. Okay, I’ve been on the fence about a flatboed vs a cylinder arm with table adapter. But then I see this and I’ve made up my mind.
  5. chapelstone

    Consew 227R

    Consew 227R, not sure of age but in good working order. Speed reducer, table, flat top attachment. Moving shop to a smaller location or it would not be for sale. I am out of room. Pick up in Western, NC. $1050.00
  6. We are selling a brand new Artisan 335 B Ped 500. Purchased in November, turns out it wasn't what we needed. Selling for $1,300 OBO. Local pick-up only! We are located in the San Francisco Bay Area, California. Contra Costa County. Make: Artisan Model: S-335 BP Condition: New / Like New - 100% - Only has about 10 hours of use Description from Artisan: Cylinder Bed, Big "M" sized Bobbin, Medium/Heavy Duty Walking Foot, Compound Needle Feed, (Unison Feed) Lockstitch Sewing Machine with a Large Thread Capacity, Big Size, Rotating Hook Mechanism. Includes a lever operated stitch length mechanism with a reverse feed regulator for back tacking and stitching in reverse. Some additional features of the 335 B include a semi-automatic lubrication system, a synchronized binder mechanism (folder optional) and the machine sews thread from as small as size z-46 up to a large diameter size of z-207 in the needle with up to a maximum size of z-138 in the bobbin. All types of leathers or fabrics as light as a sheet or two of paper and up to just over 3⁄8" thick of leather or fabrics. ACF-625 Digital Electronic A.C. Servo Motor Drive System. Locking caster wheels, storage drawer and additional accessories: needles, bobbins, a spool of thread and operators manuals. Replacement spare parts are similar to the German manufactured Pfaff model 335 series sewing machines. Includes flat bed "Work Platform" which transforms the cylinder bed surface of the sewing machine into a flat bed surface converting the cylinder bed style into a flat bed style sewing machine. More information from Artisan: Thank You, please reach out with any questions you may have.
  7. We are selling a brand new Artisan 335 B Ped 500. Purchased in November, turns out it wasn't what we needed. Selling for $1,300 OBO. Local pick-up only! We are located in the San Francisco Bay Area, California. Contra Costa County. Make: Artisan Model: S-335 BP Condition: New / Like New - 100% - Only has about 10 hours of use Description from Artisan: Cylinder Bed, Big "M" sized Bobbin, Medium/Heavy Duty Walking Foot, Compound Needle Feed, (Unison Feed) Lockstitch Sewing Machine with a Large Thread Capacity, Big Size, Rotating Hook Mechanism. Includes a lever operated stitch length mechanism with a reverse feed regulator for back tacking and stitching in reverse. Some additional features of the 335 B include a semi-automatic lubrication system, a synchronized binder mechanism (folder optional) and the machine sews thread from as small as size z-46 up to a large diameter size of z-207 in the needle with up to a maximum size of z-138 in the bobbin. All types of leathers or fabrics as light as a sheet or two of paper and up to just over 3⁄8" thick of leather or fabrics. ACF-625 Digital Electronic A.C. Servo Motor Drive System. Locking caster wheels, storage drawer and additional accessories: needles, bobbins, a spool of thread and operators manuals. Replacement spare parts are similar to the German manufactured Pfaff model 335 series sewing machines. Includes flat bed "Work Platform" which transforms the cylinder bed surface of the sewing machine into a flat bed surface converting the cylinder bed style into a flat bed style sewing machine. More information from Artisan: Thank You, please reach out with any questions you may have
  8. kyleatherworker

    Like New - Cowboy 3200 with many upgrades

    For sale is a brand new (only used 2 times) Cowboy 3200 cylinder bed sewing machine. Seriously, I only made on holster and one belt on this machine. It's literally brand new still. I bought this new from Ryan Neele and within 1 week of owning it, I ran across another machine that is larger and that I originally wanted. Since purchasing the new machine, I do not need the Cowboy 3200. It come will all accessories from the factory. Plus, the belt makers kit ($180) and the flat top conversion table ($120). Asking $1700, (you can save $300 plus the normal $225 shipping on this one) I will drive within 3-4 hours to meet someone on this deal. Also, I will traveling to many place in upcoming weeks. I'm happy to meet anyone along the way. Western KY to Northern Western KY to Mobile, AL Western KY to central Kansas
  9. threepets

    Cylinder Arm/Binder

    I have been asked lately to repair Hockey equipment . The final step quite often is edge binding. I have a Binder mounted on Adler 267/373 table top machine and it works very well for product you can fit into the sewing area. When I do large Goalie pads , Blocker Mitts and Catcher Mitts, unless I completely disassemble them I am unable to get them near the Binder. I am shopping for a Cylinder arm machine with a binder. Is there anybody here that would have a suggestion where to start? I have an Artisan 4000 (large frame chinese copy of a Juki 441 ) could a binder be applied to the Artisan?
  10. cavanlife

    PFAFF 335 - LIKE NEW!!

    PFAFF 335G-6/01 BLN - LIKE NEW. Pfaff single needle cylinder arm walking foot. Complete on RUC with 1060x500 table top G60 position motor and LED light. Drop Down Edge Guide 20 spools of 40T & 60T thread 20 packs of GROZ-BECKERT quality needle 36 additional bobbins and 2 bobbin cases Manuals and extra walking foot provided I used to work from home and so I had a lot of free time to craft. I love sewing and I love leather. My husband bought this machine for me as a present. Hardly used since purchased as my health deteriorated the past years. I now have to give up this machine because we're moving to Thailand, I cannot afford to ship it with us. Asking price: EUR1,800.00
  11. This is my first post, so here it goes. I am hoping to get some advice on buying the correct machine for my needs. I only have experience with flatbed machines and I've never used a cylinder arm machine before. So some advice would be great. The type of products I have been making include laptop bags, tablet sleeves, wallets, duffel bags and some handbags. I am looking to start manufacturing a variety of products and a lot more handbags. From what I gather most people who stitch handbags use cylinder arm machines. Now my question is; would a cylinder arm be able to do what a flatbed machine can do? Are cylinder arm machines as powerful as flatbed machines? Any advice would be great! FYI, I have been running a leather manufacturing business for someone else, and I am starting my own business now, that is why I need to purchase the correct machine.
  12. alpine luddite

    Pfaff 335 for sale

    i'm selling a almost new Pfaff 335 walking foot cylinder arm machine with the the oscillating binder attachment. It's a fantastic machine but it doesn't have enough pull for binding the seams( bought to set up as a dedicated binder) of my backpacks and bike bags. you can see my work, just so you have a reference for the type of items i was using it on. I know now it's a better leather machine than nylon from friends who own small production facilities here in Colorado. My staple machine is the Consew206RB-5 which just plows through anything with #69 & 92 thread. I also use it for sewing on leather patches and bottoms on some of my packs too. so I have 20 hours of actual sewing time on the this machine. Has the Pfaff anti knock off sticker. 3/4 hp servo. has both oscillating binder and regular plate and feet. located in Colorado. asking $1900
  13. So I bought this cylinder arm machine. It worked fine at the dealer for sewing and picking up thread. I re-threaded it now to the thread color i needed. Filled the bobbin and it won't pick up the bobbin thread. Bobbin spins fine. No thread stuck in there. Put brand new needle. So after unsuccessfully getting my bobbin to pick up the thread. I put back the one that the dealer had and that was working.. Still won't pick up thread. Not sure what I'm doing wrong
  14. Hi everyone So I really hope someone can help me with info on a pfaff 335-9B H2L. I was able to purchase the machine from someone selling it on gumtree for $290 which I think is a bargain. I cleaned and oiled the machine, had to make some timing adjustments, now it's working great! I googled the model but was unable to find anything. So if anyone can provide me with some info I would greatly appreciate it!
  15. Hello, I'm interested in doing small wallets and possibly briefcases later. I've been looking at the Cowboy 4500 and the Highlead version of the cylinder arm and would appreciate your input. The leather I'm sewing is pretty thick, I would be sewing 1/4 inch thick leather regularly (4.5-5 oz). I've noticed that the Highlead is much more expensive than the Cowboy, but I've heard the parts are easier to order. One person told me the Cowboy can take Juki parts though. However I like the price of the Cowboy- essentially I can get the 16 inch arm for the same price a Highlead 9 inch would take if I purchased locally. Also the Needle Positioner feature comes with the Highlead and I can imagine it being useful for a novice like myself, but the Cowboy salesman didn't know what a needle positioner was. Any thoughts on that? Both come with a servo motor. I've read some other forums but would appreciate your input. Perhaps my biggest concern is service and support since I'm new to industrial sewing and leathercrafting. There will be issues and I know I'll have questions. Thank you so much for your support. Sidona
  16. After much debate I have decided to try and sell my Ludwig 205-370 heavy duty cylinder arm leather stitcher. Due to time constraints from my job I am just not doing enough leather work anymore to justify keeping it and I could really use the room in my shop, so I will sadly let it go. This machine is an exact copy of the Adler 205-370 and operates just as smoothly as the actual Adler I tried at Weaver Leather. It is in fantastic condition and has no issues. If you're not familiar with this model, they will do everything one of the 441 / "Class 4" machines will do and run smoother while doing it. The machine includes a swing-away edge guide, an adjustable height table/stand, auto-bobbin winder, speed reducer, and a quality servo motor. I have a few different presser feet and feed dogs for it, several packages of needles, a few spools of bonded nylon thread, and several bobbins. I also have the Weaver timing device and digital copies of the Adler manuals. I am asking $1,500.00 for the machine and all the accessories I have for it. It would be a tremendous effort to break this thing down and crate it to ship because it's HEAVY and BIG, so I would really prefer local pickup. However, if someone is willing to pay for the effort required to ship it I am willing to do the work as a last resort. I am located near Huntington, WV. Feel free to ask any questions you have about it or if you'd like to see any other pictures. I am not in a bind or "needing" to sell it in any way, so I'm not going to accept any low-ball offers. If I can't get within reason of what it is worth for it, I'll just cover it up and keep it. If interested you can message me here, email me at evandailey@suddenlink dot net, or call or text at 304-six33-489two.
  17. Hi, I love this community of people helping each other, I have read... and read and read, and so now I know that there is no one machine that will suit all of my needs for the rest of my life, I know how a lot of you feel about clones and I feel the same way. I live in an area of the county that has no industrial sewing machine stores remotely near me (29909, Okatie SC) so I will have to buy a machine and have it shipped to me, and set it up myself. I can get a neighbor to help a little bit with physically setting the motor in place. Buying an industrial sewing machine is mainly because my artist uncle died and left me all of his unfinished and will-never-be-able-to-be-sold paintings. These paintings are on canvas and linen with layers of paint - enough to make probably 70 bags. I have tried to make a couple of mock-ups on my home sewing machine and though it's a trooper, of course I am limited (yes I read the post on the difference between home and industrial) but aside from that I want to sew with thicker thread than is possible on a home machine. I want to add leather trim and handles like on the Kuba cloth bag I made at a leather bag making workshop. So I know from my research that I need a cylinder arm, I'd like a binder (I think), let's pretend price is no object (because I think the machines are priced competitively and you get what you pay for) and since there is no one around to service the machine I need one that will not break down (is that possible?). I know I want a servo motor. I believe that a 3/8 sewing thickness will be enough. I think that I need a walking foot. I think in my case it's best to buy a new machine. The help I am asking for here is if you could please tell me if I should look any further than Juki, and which company you can recommend I buy it from. I looked longingly at a Juki 1342-7. I do love the thread trimmer on my home machine but have heard it is very expensive on an industrial machine. Maybe you will tell me that since I live in such a remote place that it really is not a good idea to even buy an industrial machine until I move somewhere else one day. If that is the case I would really appreciate the honesty. The paintings will not deteriorate with time. Thank you, PossumBean
  18. And they shall call him "Hoss" Cartwright... My Cowboy 3200 arrived thanks to Bob at Toledo Sewing. As soon as he was unboxed all I could think of was the fond memories I have of watching Bonanza as a child every night with my Mom and Dad. Yes I'm one of those lames, or real kool people, however you look at it, that names all her machines. My Seiko's name is Frankie Beverly (the singer) and the other 4 domestics have names too. The Cowboy reminded me of the gentle giant HOSS CARTWRIGHT. I'm so impressed with the control of this machine. I can creep and crawl and still stick with a solid punch just like Hoss! There is a learning curve and I've watched the many good vids on youtube especially by Ryan Neel/ Hightex and I'm diving in. There was even one that really demonstrates the range of this machine where a guy was sewing very thin bandanas. He used thin fleece material and a very thin leather and the Cowboy 3200 handled it like a charm. From thick to thin. I'm excited can't you tell? I'm sure I will seek the expertise of you good people as I go along... I can hear the Bonanza theme music now....YeeeHawwww!!
  19. Hi all,does anyone out there know anything about the sewpro 1341 or sewpro 1342? Upon a YouTube search of the Juki ls 1341,I discovered this machine. The dealer,SEWPRO USA,happens to be located in Ephrata Pennsylvania,which happens to be in the heart of Amish and Menninite country. There is a large demand for horse products in this area which also happens to be close to me.I don't know anything about Sewpro USA or the quality of their sewing machines and was hoping someone out there would know something or have used their machines. The only thing I've heard is sewpro makes a great servo gear reduction motor,the 500GR. I am curious if anyone has experience with their sewing machines and if so are they of good quality?. I am assuming they are made in China but do not know this for a fact. I would love to have a Juki but the price is pretty hefty for my budget. I will be visiting the dealer early next week to check out the machines first hand and meet Sergey.Is there anything I should look for (red flags) poor quality, or on the other hand,well built and quality? I am hoping to find an industrial machine dealer in my area, that I can count on should the need for parts,support,etc.and not be a 700 mile drive should the need arise in the future. Any tips and input would be greatly welcome and appreciated! I'm hoping this turns out to be a good thing, and will let you all know the outcome. Thanks !
  20. Hi all! I am new to this site and fairly new to leatherwork. I love it but have found myself sort of on my own with technical things on a day to day basis which can be frustrating and slow for production. I recently bought a Hi-Lead GA2668 cylinder arm walking foot machine. I am having a problem with my foot when top stitching. I can't see the stitches as they are being formed making it very hard to sew an exact straight line. I was wondering could anyone post a photo of the foot they use on their cylinder arm which they find great for top stitching ? (a foot which gives you a view of the needle meeting the leather or something like this) I cannot thank you enough for any help or guidance you may be able to offer on this issue . Advance thanks form a struggling beginner .
  21. I make all sorts of leather luggage, from hard cases to soft bags... a lot of my production had been done in Istanbul up till this point, however I am now transitioning all of the manufacturing to my tiny little shop in Montana. That being said I have been doing all of my prototype work and some custom work on my Juki 1541, but when it comes to soft bags and duffles a cylinder arm machine is what I am in need of (at least if I want to prevent further fits of rage and possible injury). That being said, to this point the majority of my work is done with 138 thread and anywhere from 3-8oz leather. I am really looking for a dependable machine that will transition from thick to thin really nicely, and last for years. Up till now I have been considering and Adler model 69-373, as well as and Adler 269-373. I know there are some other great options out there and to be honest I don't even know if the previous models will do everything I would like. The fact that I live in Montana means that I don't really have the option to go out an try a bunch of machines, however here is what I really would like to accomplish with this purchase. be able to sew thin leathers as well as thick. (I don't think I needed to sew anything thicker than 3/8in to this point, however better safe than sorry so maybe a 1/2" capability would be nice?) I currently use 138 thread, but could definetly see the use of thicker thread being nice. I don't see myself needing anything below 69 thread. great transitions from thick to thin. Thin cylinder arm for rolling around tight corners. With all this said, I think the Model 69 maxes out at thread 138 but I am not sure on the 269. Also, I don't know what thickness of material can be run through either of the machines. If anyone has any other suggestions (Randall, Consew, Pfaff, Juki or anything else), or has a machine that fits my needs that they would like to part with let me know... also I am interested in a double needle machine that will do the same as above. Thanks in advance for any help. If I need to clarify anything please let me know.
  22. I'm new to leather working. So far, all I've made are a few belts, dog collars, and dog harnesses. I've done these on a flatbed sewing machine. I'm looking for a more heavy duty machine, and I'm having a difficult time understanding why leather workers go with the cylinder arm? I'd really love to have a cylinder arm machine with a plate attachment and table that gave the machine the equivalent amount of worktop space as a typical flatbed machine. I'm considering building such a setup myself, but I don't know why yet. I don't imagine myself ever taking the flatbed off, because I don't know how the cylinder arm is used. Would anyone mind helping a newbie understand? Thanks so much!
  23. Hi all, Need your help again please. I am very new to sewing machine, I found this Pfaff 335 online: I contacted the seller and was told that the machine is brand new. I am wondering if you can advise me what subclass this is, and tip on how to check if the machines are genuinely made not a counterfeit or used. How could I check that? Also where can I find technical info on this machine? I downloaded a leaflet but it doesn't say much sadly. I told the seller that I am planning to sew 3/8" max (veg tan leather + fabric) he doesn't seem to think it will take that thickness? Many thanks!
  24. Fore Sale Juki 441, extra heavy duty sewing machine for sale. bought it couple of month ago for hobby. I am unable to use the machine now as I am occupied with work and studies and soon will be moving from the place and hence for sale. Comes with 1. servo motor, 2. speed reduction pulley setup. 3. and additional saddle foot attachments and needles worth 300£ I don't have to boost about the machine, as everybody on this forum knows about this beast. as mentioned, I am moving so I am quit open to reasonable offers please contact via massage. thank you
  25. Hello everyone, My first post ever. I am very new to leather crafting, so forgive me I do not speak mechanic language. I have decided to join this forums after reading Wizcrafts's The Type Of Sewing Machine You Need To Sew Leather I learnt a lot from it but I cannot make up my mind which machine that will be suitable for me. Here is my situation: I am sewing leather bag, purse, clutch bags, tote bags etc, using 1-5oz leather with fabric so about 1/4" including the fabric lining for the body, about 3/8" max for straps/handle/thick joints I use veg tanned top grain leather (not sure if that makes any difference to picking a machine?) I am based in Ireland so I have very limited options/choices available to consider I have decided a cylinder arm, walking foot with compound feed will be good for my needs, so I have ruled out any flat bed or post arm machines. I am seeking your advice/opinion on the following machines, one of which I will (hopefully) end up buying: Durkopp Adler 669 - 180010 E3 Durkopp Adler 69 / 069 subclass unknown (Used) perhaps you can tell by this photo? It was listed with 6 months warranty. Highlead GC2698-1BN Highlead GC2268 Consew 277R-3 Juki TSC-441 Juki DSC-244 / DSC-245 / DSC-246 - I don't know what the differences between these three are?? They have the same info on seller's website Juki LS-1341 Can you please let me know what you think about the above and based on my requirements and which would you prefer to go with if it was you? And if not to much to ask, can you also help me with the following questions: what machine needle and thread size is suitable for stitching double layers of veg tanned 4-5oz leather straps/handle? what needle and thread size is best for single layer veg tanned 4-5oz with medium weight fabric? I have been hand stitching and as much as I enjoy hand stitching I would love to get the basic putting the pieces together done quicker on a machine. Many thanks in advance.