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  1. So, Merry Christmas to me! Managed to acquire a Rose round knife, and I have been looking for a nice round knife for over a year now. Hoping to get some experts to chime in and tell me what they can about this knife - age, condition, value, etc. These photos were taken as I was sharpening it, only using the 1200 grit Atoma stone, and followed up with a broken little natural stone I have, then some stropping, it is push cut sharp on a piece of paper. The burr took forever to work off! I am curious about the beveling that you can see in the close up photo of the edge. It looks like 3 bevels: a gradual, then a steeper, and finally the cutting bevel. Is this an original bevel? seems to have never been sharpened on the 2 big bevels? I don't see any wear or any metal loss on the edge beyond the bevel I put, so I did very little work on it. I like the patina, but worry about continued rust. Do I need to do something to condition the metal? Can I just use some steel wool on the lettering to remove the rust, or should i be using vinegar or some such thing? The brass ferrule has a bit of a hangnail on it that is fairly sharp. Can I file it off, or will that degrade value? Also, the handle looks like it was burned at one time - how much of an issue is this? I don't know if I like the handle patina enough to leave it alone or not, but if it affects the future value too much if I fiddle with it, I will leave it alone. YinTx
  2. I just received and began working on another set of three Rose knives from W. Philadelphia. I thought I would do some informational posts as I rework them. The pictures show close ups of the edge and part of the face where the knife is etched Rose. This edge shot is a good reason why rust pits do not allow for sharpening to the level you want in a knife for cutting leather. The edges must come together to form the sharp edge we all need and as you can see a pit will prohibit that. All of that has to be ground out in order to obtain any sort of cutting edge. It takes a lot of time and patience to remove all of that even on a small knife like this one. The Rose knives are very hard tempered and that adds more to the work required to bring one back to life. They hold an edge really well but they are a bear to sharpen because of the temper and that makes getting pits out especially difficult. Some of the knives by other brands I've worked on are easy to clean up and that comes as a trade off because then you have to strop it of sharpen it all the time. I thought perhaps the first one of the Rose knives I bought was an anomaly and was unusually hard. This one is my seventh and they have all been hard tempered and challenging to bring back to user level when pits are present. I really like fixing these old tools up and using them. I'm not much on the Patina (rust) adding value to tool. I really doubt many of the craftsman who bought these tools a hundred years ago considerd rust an added value. I'm betting they took pride in keeping them in working order. Clearly you can see from the pit on the edge of this knife caused by patina that's just not going to happen until the patina is removed. The close up on RO part of Rose is interesting, looks like it may have been etched not stamped. It makes sense to me since the blades are so hard. I imagine pounding a steel stamp into a blade that hard might be a bad thing.