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"My biggest issue and i wont give folks a second chance is selling low grade leather for higher grade leather" 

I put my response here, as its off topic, and about food. 

The one thing that has been p****ng me  off about supermarkets lately , is selling 'lamb' especially  leg roasts , but I know damn well its mutton .  We used to get it all the time, it was cheaper. Cook a mutton roast slowly,  its just as tasty as lamb, and theres 3-4 meals from the left overs.  I thought it just disappeared.... nup , they just re-labled it  call it "lamb" and charge more for it.

But any type of  roast, or any type of meat ,  is now becoming a luxury item these days.  

Thank God my Mother taught me how to cook as soon I could reach the stove , and be frugal at the supermarkets . 

HS

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6 hours ago, Handstitched said:

 @chuck123wapati

"My biggest issue and i wont give folks a second chance is selling low grade leather for higher grade leather" 

I put my response here, as its off topic, and about food. 

The one thing that has been p****ng me  off about supermarkets lately , is selling 'lamb' especially  leg roasts , but I know damn well its mutton .  We used to get it all the time, it was cheaper. Cook a mutton roast slowly,  its just as tasty as lamb, and theres 3-4 meals from the left overs.  I thought it just disappeared.... nup , they just re-labled it  call it "lamb" and charge more for it.

But any type of  roast, or any type of meat ,  is now becoming a luxury item these days.  

Thank God my Mother taught me how to cook as soon I could reach the stove , and be frugal at the supermarkets . 

HS

That's what passes for "business" these days. In the interest of profit they gradually hike up the price until it no longer sells. Then they start reducing the size. Over here we have something called a "Wagon Wheel"  and when I was a kid it was around 7inches across and almost an inch thick. Now it's the size of a biscuit.

I used to think some of the better stores were better than that. I was wrong.

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It's the stockyards and the grain.  

Meat is processed in huge butcher shops these days with lots of low cost labor.  It's cold, wet, and tight quarters.  

With covid a lot of people got sick or just didn't bother to go back to work.  (Found other jobs)  So livestock which was ready to be butchered had to wait....and wait some more....and wait some more.  The prices of the livestock ready for butchering went down and farmers lost lots of money on a high dollar crop.  

At the same time the price of transport and grain went through the roof.  

 

The risks being so high...people stopped raising livestock.   The cost of tractor fuel, fertilizers, pesticides, and etc went through the roof too.  You can't feed animals straight grass or hay if you want to eat them.  You have to feed them grain.  What was once $4/bushel  is now $17/bushel.  Not much relief in sight either.  

With the current prices of petroleum products it's not going to get better for a few years.  

China vs Taiwan, Russia and Ukraine, and even Africa and Vietnam are all having issues....these places need shipping containers made of steel and people going to work.   Guess what they don't have? 

With all the things going on....it's not going to get any better for a while....if ever.  

Last year during the sugar shortage India had a bumper crop of sugar just rotting away unable to distribute it anywhere for a lack of shipping containers.   Meanwhile everyone was in the grocery stores wondering where the sugar was.   

That's how things are going to continue until there is peace and harmony on a global scale again.  We don't have to like everyone but we can learn to get along well enough to stop breaking down the farmers and supply chains.  Ethiopia from the 70's and 80's should be a clue as to what happens when farmers can't farm.  (Wealthy nation when they don't fight themselves) 

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5 hours ago, johnnydb said:

It's the stockyards and the grain.  

Meat is processed in huge butcher shops these days with lots of low cost labor.  It's cold, wet, and tight quarters.  

With covid a lot of people got sick or just didn't bother to go back to work.  (Found other jobs)  So livestock which was ready to be butchered had to wait....and wait some more....and wait some more.  The prices of the livestock ready for butchering went down and farmers lost lots of money on a high dollar crop.  

At the same time the price of transport and grain went through the roof.  

 

The risks being so high...people stopped raising livestock.   The cost of tractor fuel, fertilizers, pesticides, and etc went through the roof too.  You can't feed animals straight grass or hay if you want to eat them.  You have to feed them grain.  What was once $4/bushel  is now $17/bushel.  Not much relief in sight either.  

With the current prices of petroleum products it's not going to get better for a few years.  

China vs Taiwan, Russia and Ukraine, and even Africa and Vietnam are all having issues....these places need shipping containers made of steel and people going to work.   Guess what they don't have? 

With all the things going on....it's not going to get any better for a while....if ever.  

Last year during the sugar shortage India had a bumper crop of sugar just rotting away unable to distribute it anywhere for a lack of shipping containers.   Meanwhile everyone was in the grocery stores wondering where the sugar was.   

That's how things are going to continue until there is peace and harmony on a global scale again.  We don't have to like everyone but we can learn to get along well enough to stop breaking down the farmers and supply chains.  Ethiopia from the 70's and 80's should be a clue as to what happens when farmers can't farm.  (Wealthy nation when they don't fight themselves) 

world economic forum! They are real and they are doing this on purpose. Stopping fertilizer usage in all countries as we speak. 

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15 hours ago, toxo said:

Over here we have something called a "Wagon Wheel"  and when I was a kid it was around 7inches across and almost an inch thick. Now it's the size of a biscuit.

That was a popular fave back in school. But now,  they seem 'bite size'.  Most chocolate bars  ( amongst many products) have reduced in size as well, but the price hasn't changed .

I don't pay full price for anything at the supermarket  these days. I wait until they are marked down, especially meat . 

HS

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8 hours ago, Handstitched said:

That was a popular fave back in school. But now,  they seem 'bite size'.  Most chocolate bars  ( amongst many products) have reduced in size as well, but the price hasn't changed .

I don't pay full price for anything at the supermarket  these days. I wait until they are marked down, especially meat . 

HS

See....this is a perfect example of training customers to devalue products.  

Food is a commodity like gasoline or leather goods.  But because the grocery store always has a "special " you have been trained by them to look for only those items that are discounted.  The full price goods are ignored.  

If a bakery puts items on sale after 2:00pm and they close at 5....they train the customers to come in after 2:00 and make purchases then of baked goods.  They won't stop by before lunch.  (Which kills sales) Because if a customer only has time during the morning hours to buy bakery goods they won't get any because the goods go on sale after 2...they would rather go without than pay the higher price.  

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1 hour ago, johnnydb said:

See....this is a perfect example of training customers to devalue products.  

Too much of a generalisation for me. Every method of parting us from our money has to be looked at on it's own merit. Every "business" (was there ever a word as abused as that one?) strategy has to go through the morals and ethics corridor which has a bearing on how a company makes it's money. Sadly, over the last 100 years business has learnt to sprint through that corridor with less and less effect on their conscience or accountability.

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3 hours ago, johnnydb said:

See....this is a perfect example of training customers to devalue products.  

In many instances,   the markdowns are the foods that are soon to expire ( according to the label),  they  also have to get rid of them according to ' the rulz' , but,  .... from that point on,  is where the 'dumpster divers' take over  ;) 

HS 

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here their latest trick is to use the same size containers but lessen the amount. A 16 oz bag or box just like always but with the new 12 oz size written very small.

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1 minute ago, Handstitched said:

In many instances,   the markdowns are the foods that are soon to expire ( according to the label),  they  also have to get rid of them according to ' the rulz' , but,  .... from that point on,  is where the 'dumpster divers' take over  ;) 

HS 

here local food banks get the outdated foods of course the businesses get a nice tax deduction and a write off so they aren't ever hurt. They aren't really being honestly generous or committed to helping the needy they really do it for the write off.

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27 minutes ago, chuck123wapati said:

They aren't really being honestly generous or committed to helping the needy they really do it for the write off.

:17:   :yes:

 I made a simple stir fry last night, with all the usual  stir fry vegies, seasonings  etc. fresh home grown herbs, . I found an odd piece of lamb and  pork lurking  in the freezer , all chopped up small, cooked up...and the main ingredient? 2 minute noodles. Enough for 3 people.  Tasted damn good too !! worked out to be around 2-3 bucks each. 

HS

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