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Help finding 135x16 200

Hi y’all!

I am trying to find 135x16 needles in size nm 25/200 and 24/180, with the LR point. It feels like I have been through the whole internet only to find 180 as a “special order” at Schmetz, and only for us citizens, the 200 seems impossible to find - maybe there aren’t any? Do you have any ideas or do you know where I can find some? I am in Sweden so buying the needles from the same store/place would be best cause Of shipping but I am getting frustrated and anything will do as this point. 

 

Many thanks in advance! 

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What machine are you using that you need such a big needle size in 135x16? Are you sure the machine can handle the thread thickness you need for a 180 or 200 needle?

Anyway - as an alternative needle try to locate 134-35 needles with leather tip - same shaft size but just s a bit shorter than 135x16. Only thing you have to do is lowering the needle bar.

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Check out Gross-Beckert and Organ brand needle suppliers on Ebay.

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6 hours ago, Constabulary said:

What machine are you using that you need such a big needle size in 135x16? Are you sure the machine can handle the thread thickness you need for a 180 or 200 needle?

Anyway - as an alternative needle try to locate 134-35 needles with leather tip - same shaft size but just s a bit shorter than 135x16. Only thing you have to do is lowering the needle bar.

Hi!

I am using a Seiko LCW-8BL, the machine should be able to handle it :) I have an Pfaff 335 with the 134-35 system so I might use them if I can’t anyones in the 135X16 system. Thank you for your help! 

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On 8/3/2022 at 12:46 PM, Wizcrafts said:

Check out Gross-Beckert and Organ brand needle suppliers on Ebay.

There is nothing on the Groz-Beckerts website, I’ve looked before. And I can’t find the any of the sellers on eBay, can you link something? 

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20 minutes ago, Lasse said:

There is nothing on the Groz-Beckerts website, I’ve looked before. And I can’t find the any of the sellers on eBay, can you link something? 

I searched for a while and this is the best source I can come up with at this time. https://sew-europe.com/schmetz.htm

The list Schmetz and Gross Beckert on the home page.

I hope this helps.

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23 minutes ago, Wizcrafts said:

I searched for a while and this is the best source I can come up with at this time. https://sew-europe.com/schmetz.htm

The list Schmetz and Gross Beckert on the home page.

I hope this helps.

Nothing there either :/ Dimond point I have found in 180 and 200. But that’s not what I am looking fore.

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1 hour ago, Lasse said:

Nothing there either :/ Dimond point I have found in 180 and 200. But that’s not what I am looking fore.

Do you want an inline S point, or some slanted chisel point? Schmetz makes the S point in system 134-35. I have a pack I use once in a while on my Singer walking foot machines. My machines are timed so that I can use these slightly shorter needles and not skip stitches, but only on one direction machines. If your machine has reverse you might want to lower the needle bar 1/2 mm or so to put the eye at the same position as the system 135x16 needles. Machines with reverse are more finicky when it comes to timing in both directions.

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Look at this add on Ebay. Good price even with the shipping   -- SCHMETZ:328D/TRI triangular point 135x16/DPx16D,Nm:200/25 Sewing machine Needles

or look at this one   135x16TRI Industrial Sewing Machine Needles-Sz16,18,19,20,21,22,24,25-Box of 100

here is another     SCHMETZ:328D/TRI triangular point 135x16/DPx16D,Nm:200/25 Sewing machine Needles

Just copy and past the above titles into ebay and search

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19 hours ago, Wizcrafts said:

Do you want an inline S point, or some slanted chisel point? Schmetz makes the S point in system 134-35. I have a pack I use once in a while on my Singer walking foot machines. My machines are timed so that I can use these slightly shorter needles and not skip stitches, but only on one direction machines. If your machine has reverse you might want to lower the needle bar 1/2 mm or so to put the eye at the same position as the system 135x16 needles. Machines with reverse are more finicky when it comes to timing in both directions.

Really interesting reading and a ton of help. I have a few other points on needles but the LR is my favorite 

3 hours ago, cynthiab said:

Look at this add on Ebay. Good price even with the shipping   -- SCHMETZ:328D/TRI triangular point 135x16/DPx16D,Nm:200/25 Sewing machine Needles

or look at this one   135x16TRI Industrial Sewing Machine Needles-Sz16,18,19,20,21,22,24,25-Box of 100

here is another     SCHMETZ:328D/TRI triangular point 135x16/DPx16D,Nm:200/25 Sewing machine Needles

Just copy and past the above titles into ebay and search

Great stuff but that’s not the point I am looking for. The LR point is what I need 

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Call Diamond Needle in NJ.  They carry Organ needles which I have used for years.  Good needles despite what some people say.  Only G-B and Organ make Titanium coated needs which are fabulous.  i use both and have found no difference between them.  I do not use Schmetz any more because of that.

glenn

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i looked off and on for a couple YEARS, and i never did find 135x16s in LR.  I like those LR needles too. ;)

 

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4 hours ago, shoepatcher said:

Call Diamond Needle in NJ.

The O.P. is in Sweden

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8 hours ago, JLSleather said:

i looked off and on for a couple YEARS, and i never did find 135x16s in LR.  I like those LR needles too. ;)

 

That’s not the spirit! They are our there, somewhere! Haha ;)

10 hours ago, shoepatcher said:

Call Diamond Needle in NJ.  They carry Organ needles which I have used for years.  Good needles despite what some people say.  Only G-B and Organ make Titanium coated needs which are fabulous.  i use both and have found no difference between them.  I do not use Schmetz any more because of that.

glenn

I’ll send them in email. I’m in Sweden so communication is easier that way 

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when your Pfaff is using 134-35 - why not setting up both machines for that needle system? You only have to stock 1 needle system (it´s cheaper on the long view) and don´t have to worry to mix up needles (it happens).

BTW College Sewing has 134-35 LR in 180 and 200

https://www.college-sewing.co.uk/needles/groz-beckert-industrial-needles/134-35-groz-beckert-needles/134-35lr-groz-beckert-needles

https://www.college-sewing.co.uk/needles/schmetz-industrial-needles/32-10-134-35-schmetz-needles/schmetz-134-35lr-leather-point

ARMASTORE in Latvia has 134-35 LR in 180 at a super price for 100 needles:

https://armastore.eu/134-35-rtw-lr-singer-needles-pack-of-100

Other than that STRIMA in Poland has 135x16 with DIA tip in 180 and 200:

https://de.strima.com/items?query=135x16

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Constabulary said:

when your Pfaff is using 134-35 - why not setting up both machines for that needle system? You only have to stock 1 needle system (it´s cheaper on the long view) and don´t have to worry to mix up needles (it happens).

BTW College Sewing has 134-35 LR in 180 and 200

https://www.college-sewing.co.uk/needles/groz-beckert-industrial-needles/134-35-groz-beckert-needles/134-35lr-groz-beckert-needles

https://www.college-sewing.co.uk/needles/schmetz-industrial-needles/32-10-134-35-schmetz-needles/schmetz-134-35lr-leather-point

ARMASTORE in Latvia has 134-35 LR in 180 at a super price for 100 needles:

https://armastore.eu/134-35-rtw-lr-singer-needles-pack-of-100

Other than that STRIMA in Poland has 135x16 with DIA tip in 180 and 200:

https://de.strima.com/items?query=135x16

 

 

 

Great idea. I might do that and use the same system on both machines. Thank you for the help, I appreciate it!

18 hours ago, JLSleather said:

i looked off and on for a couple YEARS, and i never did find 135x16s in LR.  I like those LR needles too. ;)

 

I might have found some… interested? :) 

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On 8/5/2022 at 2:37 PM, Lasse said:

I might have found some… interested? :) 

Sure.  Post it here, as others likely want to know too.

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