randall creaser

[Joshstrange]

I have one of the old campbell-randall leather strap creaser. it is hand crank and has multiple rollers that dome and emboss straps.  has anyone had luck with putting one of the newer embosser wheels on.  if so what brand did you use and what was the inner diameter and key size and outer diameter.  I have not measured the shaft but it looks like it's 1 inch.  I have not taken it apart or looked into taking it apart, is it difficult to take apart.  Any input is appreciated.  Thanks.

[Cumberland Highpower]

Is it an 1889 creaser or something newer?

[DieselTech]

Can you post a pick or 2. I always like seeing the classic old tools/machines. 

Thanks. 

[bruce johnson]

Do you mean putting a single wheel on the end or swapping out the rollers? 

[Cumberland Highpower]

12 hours ago, bruce johnson said:

Do you mean putting a single wheel on the end or swapping out the rollers? 

I think he's asking about the +1 rollers that fit on the end of an 1889 creaser.   Hard to say though if that's the model though since he didn't say.  Maybe Campbell Bosworth (Randall-Campbell) or Randall International sold some other creaser models since the 1889?

I have an 1889 here I can check shaft size on today if I remember to  actually do it. lol

Edited November 29 by Cumberland Highpower

[bruce johnson]

1 hour ago, Cumberland Highpower said:

I think he's asking about the +1 rollers that fit on the end of an 1889 creaser.   Hard to say though if that's the model though since he didn't say.  Maybe Campbell Bosworth (Randall-Campbell) or Randall International sold some other creaser models since the 1889?

I have an 1889 here I can check shaft size on today if I remember to  actually do it. lol

That was my guess too  but then when I read about taking it apart, that made me wonder. I’ve had people ask me about swapping out the full rollers at times too. Some think that the top and bottom rollers are just slid on a separate shaft. 

[Cumberland Highpower]

Josh both of my 1889s have 3/4" shafts.  So it's a no go for your 1" bore embosser wheels.  Of course if you have an older Randall or a newer made machine your results can still vary.  Maybe a cheap sintered bronze bushing as an adapter could help you out with the newer wheels?

Edited November 29 by Cumberland Highpower

[Joshstrange]

sorry for not getting back quicker, day jobs suck.  I am not sure if it's an 1889 or 1887 or something else. the only markings that I have found say JD Randall CO or RANDALL JD CO I am not looking at it right now. what I am wondering is if the top roller somewhere on the shaft is removable and could it be replaced with a different embossing wheel that is readily available on the market today. here is a pic it's not my machine but it's exactly the same as mine except the hand crank on mine is different.  Thanks again for all your help.

[bruce johnson]

43 minutes ago, Joshstrange said:

sorry for not getting back quicker, day jobs suck.  I am not sure if it's an 1889 or 1887 or something else. the only markings that I have found say JD Randall CO or RANDALL JD CO I am not looking at it right now. what I am wondering is if the top roller somewhere on the shaft is removable and could it be replaced with a different embossing wheel that is readily available on the market today. here is a pic it's not my machine but it's exactly the same as mine except the hand crank on mine is different.  Thanks again for all your help.

In a word - no. The top roller and shaft is one piece. Cast and then machined. This is a 100 year old or more piece and finding anything modern that will match up and mesh with the bottom roll and match diameters - unlikely. 
I hear you on the day job. Down to about 7 months to go and my tool gig will be full time. 

[Joshstrange]

bruce johnson thanks that was what I was figuring, but it never hurts to ask.  Thanks everybody for the replies and help.