AlZilla Posted July 2 Report Posted July 2 I'm rehabbing a 22W156. I could use a manual, if someone has one. Don't need a parts list, I have several of them. Quote “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” - Voltaire “Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate into despotisms.” - Aristotle
Members Constabulary Posted July 2 Members Report Posted July 2 Rare model I guess, some pictures may help to figure more. But I assume it is based on a Wheeler & Wilson 12w maybe you can try it this way.... Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
AlZilla Posted July 2 Author Report Posted July 2 Since I'm over working on it ... The last patent date is 1897 and I do think it's a W&W holdover. Quote “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” - Voltaire “Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate into despotisms.” - Aristotle
Members Constabulary Posted July 2 Members Report Posted July 2 (edited) Indeed W&W based. Singer took over W&W in 1905 IIRC and continued some of their models for a while. Looks like you can alter the needle space by moving the needle holders. Thats cool! I restored a 51w post bed machine with about the same upper Edited July 2 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Constabulary Posted July 3 Members Report Posted July 3 (edited) looks as if it had an edge trimming device? There is a bar with a blade, right? Edited July 3 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
AlZilla Posted July 4 Author Report Posted July 4 On 7/2/2025 at 11:54 PM, Constabulary said: looks as if it had an edge trimming device? There is a bar with a blade, right? I think you're seeing the jump foot. I'll get some better pics of the needle area. I got a close enough manual here: https://www.universalsewing.com/parts-lists/singer . I got one for a 21W that has what I need. I had forgotten about that page. Sadly, all the downloads are randomly named so need to be "Save As"ed. I think I'm going to need parts for the left hook assembly but it looks like there are plenty on ebay for the 21W that should fit. It looks like in order to change the spacing of the needles (Gauge) it's going to require a presser foot and needle plate for each width! The good news of that is that very tight spacing between the needles and holes should contribute to a nice stitch. It's waiting for it's servo motor ... patiently. Quote “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” - Voltaire “Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate into despotisms.” - Aristotle
Members Constabulary Posted July 4 Members Report Posted July 4 (edited) now that you mention jump foot I have a different view of that picture - makes more sense now. Cool machine - love it! 👍 I guess it is using the "common" singer hook as for 153w and so forth. The availability of parts for theses dead old machines always surprise me. Thats why I´m a sucker for vintage Singers. 😉 Edited July 4 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
AlZilla Posted July 4 Author Report Posted July 4 Here's what the needle and foot area look like. Quote “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” - Voltaire “Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate into despotisms.” - Aristotle
CowboyBob Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 The manual for this machine is very close to yours. 72w19.pdf Quote Bob Kovar Toledo Industrial Sewing Machine Sales Ltd. 3631 Marine Rd Toledo,Ohio 43609 1-866-362-7397
AlZilla Posted July 5 Author Report Posted July 5 2 hours ago, CowboyBob said: The manual for this machine is very close to yours. 72w19.pdf 3.27 MB · 0 downloads Thanks for taking the time to send this along. It's quite close, a good clear copy and has an Adjusters section, which I don't have. Very helpful! Quote “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” - Voltaire “Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate into despotisms.” - Aristotle
AlZilla Posted July 5 Author Report Posted July 5 22 hours ago, Constabulary said: "common" singer hook as for 153w and so forth It does appear to have been used in a few different machines, lucky for me. I think this machine is the ancestor of the W&W D12, except the couple of pictures I can find of the D12 show a single bobbin serving both needles. This is by no means definitive, just me searching the net. Quote “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” - Voltaire “Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate into despotisms.” - Aristotle
AlZilla Posted July 5 Author Report Posted July 5 Looks like someone moved the hook saddle over, trying to disengage the left hook. You can see the extra gap between the needle plate and bobbin case. That lets the tab on the bobbin case hang up on the stops under the needle plate. Might be an easy fix. Whoever had it before was sewing single needle. Another tinker while I await the motor ... Quote “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” - Voltaire “Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate into despotisms.” - Aristotle
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