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29K58 Timing Issue- not the bobbin

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Hello Everyone,

I'll have to figure out how to shrink my photos so I can post them, but this is the gist of the issue

I bought my 29K a few years ago and she'd been rather neglected and needed some care so I cleaned her up and rebuilt the head with 29K71 parts and made a table for her. Someone moved the hand crank wheel from the end of the shaft to the front of the machine. The rear bearing in the arm was worn and the pulley was chipped and fraying my belts so I pulled it off and replaced it with a Simanco pulley once I tracked one down about 6 months ago. I noticed that the pulley alignment pin and bolt stay were missing but I couldn't find the pin hole in the shaft. I guess it was hammered in and sheared off at some point. She kept pretty good time up to that point so I installed the new pulley in the same clocking and added a grub screw. 

She's been fine until last weekend when I was working on some heavy denim jeans seams and  the pulley spun. I think I can trial and error to find the correct indexing again and drill the main shaft to install a pin like I should have done when I noticed it.

It would would be much appreciated if someone were kind enough to post a couple photos of the shaft and pulley indexing at top end and bottom end of the arm in relation to the bobbin and the foot positioning so I can be sure I've got it right otherwise I'll need to replace the shaft and that's a hassle. 

Thanks in advance

 

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I have a Singer 29K58 and I believe the hand wheel on the front is standard for it.

I purchased it from the original owners granddaughter and he purchased it in 1937. She told me this is the way it was setup from his shop.

From memory all the pulleys and cog are pinned which I think makes it hard to get out of timing unless you have sheared a pin.

Bert.

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30 minutes ago, Unrusted said:

I'll have to figure out how to shrink my photos so I can post them, but this is the gist of the issue

See this sub-forum and my comments where there are several posts about reducing the size of images for posting to forums.

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Here is a couple of pictures untrusted.

Needle down.

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And needle up

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20200718_171907.thumb.jpg.9f1aef371fb24be1ad9e36d5020458fd.jpg

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3 hours ago, Bert51 said:

I have a Singer 29K58 and I believe the hand wheel on the front is standard for it.

I purchased it from the original owners granddaughter and he purchased it in 1937. She told me this is the way it was setup from his shop.

From memory all the pulleys and cog are pinned which I think makes it hard to get out of timing unless you have sheared a pin.

Bert.

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Thanks Bert for the feedback. That makes sense. I had seen a copy of a '58 manual and the photo showed shaft mounted so I thought someone had moved mine. She's a beaut.

3 hours ago, Wizcrafts said:

See this sub-forum and my comments where there are several posts about reducing the size of images for posting to forums.

Thanks Wizcrafts, I'll read up and educate myself

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3 hours ago, jimi said:

Here is a couple of pictures untrusted.

Needle down.

20200718_171817.thumb.jpg.82e62b459b84fbb70d238f677dd3bf3f.jpg20200718_171823.thumb.jpg.07c85ec910fbb9a73bc2e308094016e5.jpg20200718_171830.thumb.jpg.746d821072ff69ff064eeafdc9a4c320.jpg

And needle up

20200718_171853.thumb.jpg.167ad0b55d6d868fef31d5ecf6753b17.jpg20200718_171900.thumb.jpg.370764be1ec19ed37a6fa28456e85ab1.jpg

20200718_171907.thumb.jpg.9f1aef371fb24be1ad9e36d5020458fd.jpg

Thank you Jimi, those photos tells me exactly what I need know

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Ok, got the photo resizing sorted out now. One more question Jimi, when your machine is at the needle up position (TDC make sense? I'm a car guy) do you see the large hole in the pulley centered above the rear bearing like in the photo below? 

 

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Yes, the hole is in the same position :thumbsup:

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