Hey thanks for the tips, ill try experimenting with different applicators, somethings got to work, youd think if the sell the product then it should of been tested before it went on the market. I think your right about the darkening, when i applied the satin sheen the veg tan still had that beautiful colour but now its a shade darker, if i put more on to even it out then it will be darker again, my wallet turned out the same after using the conditioner, it looks nice now but its very dark. Im going to try and find some resoline, does tandy sell it? How do you normally finish your leather goods? Is the resolene meant to finish the leather or also conditions it? Ive downloaded the pdf ill check it out shortly, ☺ thanks for taking the time to upload it. Peace