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That last one is the one I had found on ebay too. I'd love to grab it, but I am leaving to Peru here shortly, and will be gone for a couple weeks. Figuring out transport logistics would be a hell of a thing.

Thanks! I'll keep that in mind. I found one on ebay the other day, but it just ended up being poor timing with the logistics of trying to get it here. They seem like super neat machines.

Agreed. My current thoughts are to motorized the CLSP and get all I can from it. I think I'll keep an eye out for a Puritan chain stitcher, because they clearly work well for this style of construction.

I highly suspected that was the case, I was just curious if anyone more experiencd had any other ideas. I will likely just motorize my CLSP for now, as my main complaint is not having two hands to hold the work piece when stitching. Neither a cylinder arm, nor a post bed, can sew everything I'd like on my uppers. But this stupid little manual machine can do most things I want. And it can push thick thread through a good chunk of material. To replace it, I'd basically need to grab a cylinder arm and post bed at the same time.

Thanks for the reply! I have come across those sole sidewall stitchers, but they are obviously fairly specialized. I am unsure of how much I could use it for anything else besides what it's intended for. I would love to have one at some point, assuming I continue down the shoemaking path. It's been fairly hard to me to find the best direction to go from my CLSP. I don't know if any single machine will be able to do all of the sewing on my upper assemblies. Seems like that could just be an unfortunate aspect of this style of construction.

That's pretty neat! I do just plan on doing the moc toe stitch by hand though. There's no real useful way for me to make it happen via machine Apologies, I had written up a draft and asked ChatGPT to clean up my ramblings and incoherencies. I meant to say that I've seen vinymo #5 compared to 138, which didn't make sense to me. It seemed much bigger. But, it still does go through my CLSP.

Hey all, I’m looking for sewing machine recommendations. I know there’s probably no perfect solution for my needs aside from owning multiple machines, but I’d love to hear input. I’ve been working on true-moccasin style bootmaking—basically trying to mimic Russell Moccasin’s approach as closely as possible. This involves sewing 3D lines with partially assembled components getting in the way. I’ve been managing with a hand-cranked CLSP, which has done surprisingly well with some planning and tinkering, but it’s not ideal. Here’s my bootmaking Instagram for reference: 📸 x24_leathers Some challenges: Heel stay: Very 3D—standard cylinder arms don’t offer the articulation I need. A post-bed machine would likely shine here. Quarters to vamp / molded sole to upper: These need a cylinder arm. A post-bed can’t manage this geometry. Russell uses a range of machines—Puritan chain stitch, post-bed, cylinder arm, etc.—but I don’t have their resources. I’ve been eyeing a motorized 29k clone. I know it’s a patching machine, not a production machine—but the general concept (rotating arm, slim profile) actually works well for my use case. That said, its 6mm punch capacity and basic walking foot feed seem limiting. Ideally, I want to upgrade from the CLSP to something that retains its versatility, handles moderate 3D work, and can sew with #5 Vinymo MBT (about 0.6mm; slightly thicker than size 138). I currently use: 120/19 needles for <3mm material 130/22 needles (these: Amazon link) for >3mm Any recommendations or insights are appreciated. Thanks!