Hi Wizcrafts, thanks so very, very much for your advise, it is a huge comfort to know that leatherworker and folk like you are here to offer advise! I love this website as there is so much one can learn. I guess that I will most likely require a cb4500, although quite expensive, there are many here that have them so I will never be up the proverbial creek without a paddle when it comes to advise! Thanks again, warmest regards