We'd love to see you again Alan! And I would have enjoyed seeing the saddle pictures with Roeliff too. With Dave's saddle it will slip back a smidgeon (an inch or so) when you are mounted in it, to sit in just the right place. I've been riding in Dave's saddles for a couple of years now (both Wes and I own one) and none of our horses figet when being mounted nor do they move off before being asked to. They've seemed very happy with the saddle fit, and as you well know, our horses do not suffer pain very long before LETTING YOU KNOW TO GET OFF!! NOW! . The cinch is where it is supposed to be and it is girthed as tight as the front cinch. There is a lot of flair to the bars and therefore a lot of room for the shoulder, even with well laid back shoulders such as our horses have, and it works really well with their short backs.
Now, Dave, if I have said anything here that is an error, please do correct me!
