Well I just saw the saddle and it was not at all what I expected. It was an original from Greenville, but the saddle was in poor condition. It had paint speckled all over it and the horn cap was missing. It also had orange around the tree and horn, looked like paint but maybe from a tree repair? It had serial number under fender of 82-1125. I just didn't feel it was worth $450 in that condition.