Consew 206Rb-5 With All The Whistles....

[Consew 206Rb-5 With All The Whistles....]

Did the sale go down or is the machine still up?

[Pfaff 1221]

I am trying to find more information on a Pfaff 1221. I did a search, and that particular model is not mentioned on the forum, and there is not much informaiton from google searches I can think of either.

A local sewing machine shop has one for a very reasonable price. I understand this isn't a harness machine, and I would not be able to do much in the way of veg tan leather on it. This morning I took in some samples of glued together leathers to test on the machine. There was no thread, but with a leather needle it punched through 2, 3, and 4 layers of upolstery leather like it was nothing. It also punched through about a quarter inch of veg tan. The guy who owns the shop is worried about selling me a machine I won't be happy with. I am thinking I would be able to use this for upolstery leather, and possibly to sew a piece of 4-5 oz leather onto upolstery leather items I have made. A few questions:

What is the max needle size this machine can use?

What is the max thread size this machine can use?

Stich Spacing?

Anything I should know about the machine prior to purchasing it?

This is not a leather machine. I own a 1222 and love it for it's portability and ruggedness. (for a household) I sew backpacks and other heavy nylon things like utility vests and the 1222 does a fine job for me. 18 needles and #69 even #92 thread and stitches from 20 to 4 are common for me. This machine could certainly do the odd upholstery job or repair but it's not designed for that and would give up the ghost sooner or later. Find something better suited I would counsel.

-T

[Mystery To Me]

Marvelous ideas all around... thanks to all who responded. I tried larger needles and smaller thread and that most certainly helped. I feel a little doofy for not thinking of that but I suppose i didn't think this stuff was as sticky as it really is. I've got to find me some 140/22's in the 29x4 series.

Again thanks all for the help.

-T

[Mystery To Me]

Thanks guys. Some good ideas. I tried some oil on the thread with no luck and would like to stay away from lubes in general 'cause I use the machine for all kinds of materials and don't want to contaminate the works, but I'll try the larger needles and a little talc or some such might be the trick. Thanks again.

-T

[Mystery To Me]

Thanks for the reply but the lock stitch is indeed in the material. That loop you see is the needle thread. I can pull the bobbin thread and get it (with some effort) to pull out of the stitch completely. Presto! No stitch! So the two cross each other very near the bottom. Very convenient when you're trying to set the tension right and you don't want to waste a lot of material.

[Mystery To Me]

Ok... new here and please forgive if you've covered this with some other poor sap that I was not able to find in the archives. Below is a picture of the stitch provided to me by my 29K58.

-Threading is correct

-needle is new and properly installed,

-shuttle timing is right,

-check lever travels to top of stroke,

- top tension is as high as it'll go,

-shuttle tension is as loose as I can make it,

-thread is #69 on a 110/18 29x3 through three layers of urethane coated poly (but same results on 1 & 2),

-never misses a stitch,

-needle tension spring is absent

-can't identify any significant burs or grooves

-machine sews fine with same settings through about 16 layers of 1000D cordura

The top tension does seam to have an effect on the severity of the problem, but I don't understand why the needle seams to drag the thread with it on the up-stroke. My little Pfaff 230 from 1955 will sew this stuff with the same needle and thread sizes and not loop (poor thing struggles but she does it). Any ideas.