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    When you say you want a machine for heavy leather work, by my definition, you have already eliminated 90% of the industrial sewing machines on the market. I define heavy leather sewing as anything over 3/8 inch in thickness, or any thickness using #277 or larger thread.. Thus, a 1/4" thick double bridle leather belt, edge and fishtail sewn with #277 thread, requires a heavy duty leather stitcher. To me, a leather stitcher is not the same thing as a sewing machine that sews leather.

    The Adler 205-370 and Juki TSC441 are the models upon which the modern day 441 clones are based. Either of those machines can pound through about 19 mm of hard leather, with #346 thread, using a #27 needle, of system 794. The modern 441 clones have improved on those specs and can now sew up to 7/8 inch, with a #28 needle and #415 thread. The only other heavy leather machines qualified to sew that thick, with very heavy thread, are the Union Lockstitch and Campbell Lockstitch needle and awl machines. These machines sew through wood and even pennies!

    Will these Adler and Juki machines, and clones thereof also work through Kydex sheet? I've been looking at some thinner versions of that for reinforcement of certain holster areas (throats and belt loops for instance).

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    Thanks Wiz! As a result of my lurking before registering, I was more than kind of hoping you would reply to this.

    Thanks for pretty much confirming what I thought about that machine. The price was nice when I found it and I figured it was worth more than I gave and could maybe work as a trade against something more like what I actually want.

    What little garment work I do, I'm hoping to find a reasonably nice treadle machine for.

    Do you think that I could realistically expect to do anything close to a full trade against a used 441 clone you mention or a Tippman Boss fuguring this Singer is in reasonably good condition?

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    Hello all!

    New to forum.

    I have a Singer 120U machine and while I believe it will do well for any fabric I could feed it, I am pretty sure from lurking around here that it will basically not do leather that I am looking to sew. I am looking to do holster work in 2+ layers of 5/6 up to 8/9 tooling leather. I may add some to the repertoire like belts, guitar straps, etc. I do this because I enjoy it, not because I am looking to make money or seriously go into business. If I were to sell some stuff here and there to offset the costs of my hobby, I would not complain.

    The Singer is in working order, has a clutch motor (that goes what I call absurdly fast for fabric), and is complete with table.

    So the question goes...

    How much heck and investment would I be looking at to convert it to my needs? Would it even be worth it?

    -OR-

    Could I expect to be able to do a direct (or almost direct) trade against a Tippman Leather Boss or similar?

    Thanks in advance.

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