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the first one is ja or ha 15 clone of a singer 15 most of the clones were built better than USA if it says "made in occupied japan" there's a little value in those

http://www.sewalot.com/singer_through_the_ages.htm Alex I Askaroff Alex has spent a lifetime in the sewing industry and is considered one of the foremost experts of pioneering machines and their inventors. He has written extensively for trade magazines, radio, television, books and publications worldwide. Over the last few decades Alex has been painstakingly building this website to encourage enthusiasts around around the Globe. maybe dis guy could help or he might steal the idea for his next book ...be cryptic

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