Hi Mike, thank you for your reply, that pretty much exactly what I was looking for , I’m mainly using 1-1.5mm leather also. I am over in the uk so I think whatever I buy the postage is going to be excessive. I did look at the Barry kings however The reseller of the Barry king bevelers in the uk are out of stock of the smaller sizes. I will probably go with the Palosanto in a 0 size to get me started.