I've just been dabbling into things so I've made some belts, dog collars and spur straps for my nephews and family. I feel like the leather is still very stiff. I am self taught and really do t k ow much on the care of leather, so I didn't know if maybe that is part of my problem. I use veg tan but I've also used Herman Oak and both seem to have the same fell, stiffness.