Thank you all for this great info. Like I said I'm new to all this so any help is greatly appreciated. I have not gotten into tooling as of yet. I have only tried stamping and love the outcome so far. I'm still trying to get this whole "casing" thing down. I have only tried water so far but some how must have over wet my last project because after I stamped it it became very very stiff. I'm gonna try some oil on it to see if it softens back up. Thanks again everyone...