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I've been doing a lot of work for my club, and I really enjoy doing the work. Unfortunately I've ruined my wife's Brother (which was kind of a nice machine $500....lol, I need to get it retimed for her). I have a Singer Model 27 that I've started to use, but I'm having some issues with "slowing down on triple and double" layers of leather when sewing patches. Not to mention that the thickness won't pass through the presser foot. My next move is to drop the dime for a nicer machine. Like to move up to an industrial/heavy duty sewing machine. Both my wife and I are also interested in creating other leather works as well, belts, purses, bags, ect.., and finding this site was an obvious plus. I was looking at a few machines, one being the SINGER 191D-30 Complete Industrial Commercial-Grade Straight-Stitch Sewing Machine, and the other being the Juki TL-2000Qi High Speed. I'm not so concerned with speed. I like to take my time and make sure things are correct. I'm open to suggestions for sure. I'm not Mr. Sewing all my life, but I've sewed enough cuts to know that, 1. I get frustrated rolling up a cut to pass it under the machine (not that bad, but I have problems pulling it through evenly without puffing when things are rolled up. 2. I need the strength to pass through several layers of leather and patches. 3. That presser foot height kills me. I saw where the 191D will raise up to 13mm I think. The knee control would be new to me, but seems to be what I would be after to raise that puppy up. I'll muddle my way though one way or another and read through some more posts to see if I can find anything more about this, but I didn't see anything in the first few pages (25), so I thought I would put the question out there. I'm guessing you guys are a lot more advanced than I in this type of work and would appreciate any help/suggestions. I'd like to keep my costs under a $1000, Seadog