Members Yukonrookie Posted March 10 Members Report Posted March 10 Hi folks, I‘m in need of some decent camo tools. But just in combination with basket stamping. So right now, I’m just interested in camo stamp alternatives that work well with basket stamping, yet are different than these ones I already own: C425, C431, C709, N305, N720…. For other jobs I got a decent array of border/camo tools. For basket stamping I only got a few Craft Japan starburst? or clam? style camo stamps- mentioned above. They are alright but not the cleanest imprint and a bit boring to me, by now. Some examples of camo tools I searched around for online I found on Bruce Johnson’s page. Like Wayne Jueschke 219, 220, 221, WJ 228, 229 and WJ 246, 248. Does anyone own one or some of them? If yes, some pictures would be a huge help in deciding which to try next.. Sometimes seeing pictures of finished or partially finished projects can really help with choosing. Now those were some examples to give you guys an idea. Any other makes and models you know of would be very helpful too though. I know even Sergey has some nice camo stamps, a couple of which I even own myself, but they all seem too large for the size basket stamps I use. Basket stamps I own that see the most use are Barry King rope and single bar sizes #2 and #3. I haven’t yet had a project where #3 looked too small. So, to summarize I’m just looking to hear what camo tools some of you guys/gals use for basket jobs that are different than the typical clam/sunburst Camo tools, like listed above. Any ideas would be great to help me pinpoint and shrink down to 2 or 3 stamps to order next. Thanks a bunch in advance! Quote
Moderator bruce johnson Posted March 10 Moderator Report Posted March 10 Just to help with sizing. Years ago the “golden rule” I was given for sizing. On basket stamps the width of the border stamp should be the width of the end of the basket stamp. On square geometric stamps the border stamp should be 1/2 the width of the geometric stamp. As far as each of these stamps on work, I can pull up an example of the wagon wheel pretty quick here. Julie Baugher uses the 246 and 248 stamps a lot. I’ve sold a lot of the 218 to 221 stamps also. They are a half flower stamp and make a nice border - more dimensional than many others. Quote
Members Yukonrookie Posted March 11 Author Members Report Posted March 11 15 hours ago, bruce johnson said: Just to help with sizing. Years ago the “golden rule” I was given for sizing. On basket stamps the width of the border stamp should be the width of the end of the basket stamp. On square geometric stamps the border stamp should be 1/2 the width of the geometric stamp. As far as each of these stamps on work, I can pull up an example of the wagon wheel pretty quick here. Julie Baugher uses the 246 and 248 stamps a lot. I’ve sold a lot of the 218 to 221 stamps also. They are a half flower stamp and make a nice border - more dimensional than many others. Thanks for the reply and picture Bruce. Looks great! Yup, I’m sure now. The wagon wheel will definitely be one of the 3 or 4 camo tools I’ll be getting this time around. Quote
Members Yukonrookie Posted March 11 Author Members Report Posted March 11 15 hours ago, bruce johnson said: On basket stamps the width of the border stamp should be the width of the end of the basket stamp Just to clarify for dummies (I obviously don’t mean myself )….. If we take a BK “rope” size 3 (1/4”x7/16 or 6.35x11.11mm) as an example….. By the “Golden Rule” you mentioned, the width of my border stamp shouldn’t be wider than approx. 1/4” or 6.35mm, correct? Would you consider a C425 (7x6mm) on the big side the BK #3? I think I may have been using bigger camo stamps than I should’ve. Quote
Moderator bruce johnson Posted March 11 Moderator Report Posted March 11 The “rule” is more for the cam or flat side border stamps. On the rope borders, I’d pick a rope size according to the project size. I did a bunch of rope borders and used a larger one for rope cans and bags and smaller size for checkbooks and most wallets. Interesting side note. Several years ago I started off using the Craftool rope stamps and bent the ends on several - still cost effective to toss them but not ideal. I had Barry make me some and eventually they got to be a stock item for him. I still have those originals Quote
Members Yukonrookie Posted March 11 Author Members Report Posted March 11 Thanks for explaining that. Yeah, I still have some craftool or craft Japan stamps, but I stay away from them as much as possible. So far it’s been mostly BK, Sergey, Texas leather tools, I think I’ll give those Jueschke stamps of yours a try next though. Thanks for that picture. That helps for someone that’s still a bit of a newb like myself and can only order online with deciding. You see I’m not exactly sure which camo or border stamps I want. Just that I want to try out something else. What does that rope border you mentioned look like? At the risk of becoming annoying, would you happen to have a picture handy? Quote
Moderator bruce johnson Posted March 11 Moderator Report Posted March 11 Here are some rope borders. The rope cans have a larger size. The little pad holder has a smaller size rope stamp Quote
Members Yukonrookie Posted Thursday at 11:20 AM Author Members Report Posted Thursday at 11:20 AM That’s beautiful work there @bruce johnson ! Thank for posting those pictures! I’m putting together an order with you in the near future. I won’t be back home for another 3 - 4 weeks so I gotta wait at least another couple weeks before I’ll actually place it. You see, too often in the past have I forgone proper research before placing an order for stamps. This time I’m trying to do it better and try to gather as much research as possible, so that the tools I order actually fit each specific job while still looking nice to my eye. Where I live it’s keep the tool you ordered because shipping back would be on my dime and a hassle. Anyhow, that’s why I’m asking so many (annoying) questions. I narrowed my choices down to WJ230, WJ245, WJ90 and WJ221. Those are all 1/4”. They should fit perfectly with my 1/4” wide basket stamps (I.e. BK#3). Would you say they should still fit well with my 3/16” (I.e. BK #2) wide basket stamps? Last question (promise ): WJ245 and 246 should be placed tightly together, right? Leaving no gaps. Meaning it wouldn’t work so well on curves, corners, bends etc. Better for more or less straight borders. Or am I missing something? Thanks in advance for your patience! Quote
Moderator bruce johnson Posted Thursday at 10:20 PM Moderator Report Posted Thursday at 10:20 PM The 245 and 246 are good for straight borders, you can angle them across 90 degree corners and go right on also. That list looks good. I’d suggest a 84 or 87 for the 3/16 basket and lean towards the 87. Quote
Members Yukonrookie Posted Friday at 09:41 AM Author Members Report Posted Friday at 09:41 AM Sounds great! Thanks for all your replies. I think I got my list together. My heaviest Maul is 24oz so I might add one of your 32oz WJ Mauls to it. Thanks again for your advice. Quote
Moderator bruce johnson Posted Friday at 03:51 PM Moderator Report Posted Friday at 03:51 PM 6 hours ago, Yukonrookie said: Sounds great! Thanks for all your replies. I think I got my list together. My heaviest Maul is 24oz so I might add one of your 32oz WJ Mauls to it. Thanks again for your advice. I am just going to put this out. I am restocked as of last night on most stamps for the moment. Wayne has had some health issues and slower than he used to be and trying to catch up. I have 2# mauls. Lighter Mauls are in progress but will be way least a few weeks. Quote
Members Yukonrookie Posted Sunday at 08:09 PM Author Members Report Posted Sunday at 08:09 PM On 3/14/2025 at 4:51 PM, bruce johnson said: I am just going to put this out. I am restocked as of last night on most stamps for the moment. Wayne has had some health issues and slower than he used to be and trying to catch up. I have 2# mauls. Lighter Mauls are in progress but will be way least a few weeks. Sounds great! Thanks again. Quote
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