Dye Stain Oil Wax

[foufouche77]

Hi all

I'm new on this site (I learnt a lot viewing posts)

First of all, I wish you a happy new year 2009

I french and did some leather work

And as I don't understand very well english I think I made mistakes

Would you be fine to correct ideas and answer question

What I understand :

1) dye / stain / oil penetrate leather

2) color (cova for example) stay on top, of the leather

Several methods :

1) dye or color then / finishe or oil

2) dye or color then oil, then stain (removed) then finish or oil

My main problem is with stain

I tried dye, oil, stain , finishe, but when I removed stain, it deasapeard even in the tooled down parts !!!

Perhaps the oil has to not be put in the tooled parts ? (just on top !!!)

Or it's not the right product

I used dye and color from France, super shene and stain from Tandy

Thanks for your help and have a good day

[foufouche77]

48 views and no answer !!!

I don't understand why ?

Are my questions not right ?

Thanks to help me

[whinewine]

My main problem is with stain

I tried dye, oil, stain , finishe, but when I removed stain, it deasapeard even in the tooled down parts !!!

I am confused... when you say stain, what do you mean? Stains can be either dyes [or do you mean 'Antiques'?]. If you stain (by using dyes), the stain goes INTO the leather- it is not removed (even water-based stains/dyes). Do you mean "antique", rather than 'stain'? If you mean antiques, they are left in the low parts & removed from the high parts, most often by using a piece of sheep wool. If the wool is rubbed too hard, antique can be taken right out of the low parts, too... or, maybe, the oil prevents the antique from bonding to the leather at all.

Until we know what you mean by "stain" , we cannot offer any ideas.

[rdb]

Welcome to the Forum, foufouche!

Don't worry about how many views, all the questions get an answer, just sometimes it takes a bit.

There are two books that you can get from Tandy in the UK. They are a good beginning to understanding how to dye and color Leather.

http://www.tandyleatherfactory.co.uk/pc-75...ather-book.aspx

http://www.tandyleatherfactory.co.uk/pc-72...ather-book.aspx

Feibings also has a new book on how to use their Products:

http://www.fiebing.com/site/Viewer.aspx?ii...e&rpid=4539

Good luck, and don't forget to show us your progress with Pictures.

Google translation:

Bienvenue sur le Forum, foufouche!

Ne vous inquiétez pas pour combien de points de vue, toutes les questions d'obtenir une réponse, tout cela prend parfois un peu.

Il ya deux livres que vous pouvez obtenir de Tandy au Royaume-Uni. Ils sont un bon début pour comprendre comment la teinture et la couleur du cuir.

http://www.tandyleatherfactory.co.uk/pc-75...ather-book.aspx

http://www.tandyleatherfactory.co.uk/pc-72...ather-book.aspx

Feibings a aussi un nouveau livre sur l'utilisation de leurs produits:

http://www.fiebing.com/site/Viewer.aspx?ii...e&rpid=4539

Bonne chance, et n'oubliez pas de nous montrer vos progrès avec les images.

[foufouche77]

I am confused... when you say stain, what do you mean? Stains can be either dyes [or do you mean 'Antiques'?]. If you stain (by using dyes), the stain goes INTO the leather- it is not removed (even water-based stains/dyes). Do you mean "antique", rather than 'stain'? If you mean antiques, they are left in the low parts & removed from the high parts, most often by using a piece of sheep wool. If the wool is rubbed too hard, antique can be taken right out of the low parts, too... or, maybe, the oil prevents the antique from bonding to the leather at all.

Until we know what you mean by "stain" , we cannot offer any ideas.

If fact i think i make a mistake with theses words STAIN and DYE

In tandy's book they said :

leather DYES which pénétrate the leather

color STAIN and ANTIQUE which must be removed quickly

BLOCK OUT

and FINISH

So if i understand, i can dye/color and apply finish, or put stain/antique (over dye/color) and apply finish

But if i do not want to put stain or antique over some part, i must apply a block out or super shene

I hope i am now clear for ideas

Thanks for your help

Welcome to the Forum, foufouche!

Don't worry about how many views, all the questions get an answer, just sometimes it takes a bit.

There are two books that you can get from Tandy in the UK. They are a good beginning to understanding how to dye and color Leather.

http://www.tandyleatherfactory.co.uk/pc-75...ather-book.aspx

http://www.tandyleatherfactory.co.uk/pc-72...ather-book.aspx

Feibings also has a new book on how to use their Products:

http://www.fiebing.com/site/Viewer.aspx?ii...e&rpid=4539

Good luck, and don't forget to show us your progress with Pictures.

Google translation:

Bienvenue sur le Forum, foufouche!

Ne vous inquiétez pas pour combien de points de vue, toutes les questions d'obtenir une réponse, tout cela prend parfois un peu.

Il ya deux livres que vous pouvez obtenir de Tandy au Royaume-Uni. Ils sont un bon début pour comprendre comment la teinture et la couleur du cuir.

http://www.tandyleatherfactory.co.uk/pc-75...ather-book.aspx

http://www.tandyleatherfactory.co.uk/pc-72...ather-book.aspx

Feibings a aussi un nouveau livre sur l'utilisation de leurs produits:

http://www.fiebing.com/site/Viewer.aspx?ii...e&rpid=4539

Bonne chance, et n'oubliez pas de nous montrer vos progrès avec les images.

Thanks for the answer and advices

I will try theses books

And i'll post some leather work soon