megabit Report post Posted April 2, 2009 Page 58/59 he talks about a knot he calls the W knot. Is this the same knot others (like Grant) call a Gaucho knot? If so his instructions are sure harder than tying the foundation knot and adding the Gaucho interweave. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millwright Report post Posted April 3, 2009 If it's harder to understand than some of Grant's instructions, I don't want any part of it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
megabit Report post Posted April 3, 2009 It does a fairly good job of explaining the concepts so you can figure out how to make the knots bigger or smaller. However it doesn't have the step by steps pics, just O1 U1... and that is enough sometimes but for knots I am not familiar with the pics are sure nice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney Wood Report post Posted April 3, 2009 Page 58/59 he talks about a knot he calls the W knot. Is this the same knot others (like Grant) call a Gaucho knot? If so his instructions are sure harder than tying the foundation knot and adding the Gaucho interweave.Mike The W knot by Woolery is what Grant calls the small fan knot. PPs 426 - 427. The same knot is on the cover of "Tom Hall"'s book. In fact you can't get what the purists call a true gaucho with a two string interweave. It can be done with one string, or three strings for an interweave. This matter of knot "names" has led to as much pointless debate as anything I know of. The only way to precisely identify any specific knot is by Parts X Bights and code sequence. This gives way too many possibilities to give individual names for them all. If you look at the gaucho as a color pattern, it can be done in many forms. Sidney Wood Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney Wood Report post Posted April 3, 2009 About my previous reply. I was in error about the W knot. I miss counted the inner passes. It is in fact a perfect 2 pass gaucho. Had it had the 3 pass inner count that I thought I saw it would been a fan. Actually the gaucho- fan - and headhunter (and some others) are very similar to a family of column coded braid patterns that just differ in details. Sorry abouit that, you were right the first time. Sidney Wood Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
megabit Report post Posted April 3, 2009 Thanks Sidney, it looks like it to me. His instructions would have been easier if he told you to tie the 6B turks head first and then do the interweave like Grant does. But they do both get to the same place. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites