gcollins Report post Posted May 2, 2009 (edited) Hi Folks, I know I am new here, and I hate to ask a favor. I have found a real bargin on a Singer Model 17-23, I hope smeone has knowledge of this machine, it comes with a nice table, and foot control, clutch motor for $100.00 . I have to drive 4 hrs to get it, but I don't want to buy something tat won't work! I mainly want it for sewing belts, I sew all my other leather by hand! I would be great full, for any help or advice! Thanks Greg Edited May 2, 2009 by gcollins Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trox Report post Posted May 16, 2009 Hi Folks, I know I am new here, and I hate to ask a favor. I have found a real bargin on a Singer Model 17-23, I hope smeone has knowledge of this machine, it comes with a nice table, and foot control, clutch motor for $100.00 . I have to drive 4 hrs to get it, but I don't want to buy something tat won't work! I mainly want it for sewing belts, I sew all my other leather by hand! I would be great full, for any help or advice! Thanks Greg Hi Greg! The Singer 17-23 is an old industrial cylinder bed machine with drop feed across the arm. Feed dog at left of the needle and roller presser foot. The machine was made for shoe production and smaller leather works. Max tread size is 20 and stitch lengths about 4 to 5 mm, but You have to ask seller if it takes heavier tread. You can find information on these machines on Singerco.com. Look under industrial products, there you can download old manuals on pdf`s. You can also find info on this link: http://www.industrialsewmachine.com/webdoc1/used/used-singers/17.htm the Singer 17 was not made for heavy leather works, to sew belts you will need a heavier tread size 12, 10 or 8, and a longer stitch. The Machine won’t handle this. In my country (Norway), you can find the singer 17 very cheap. You got to move up in class. Look at these classifications: http://www.ferdco.com/1/3.php. Depending on where you lives, but I recommends German Durkop Adler or Juki from Japan. Singer has the patents but not the quality. I have 3 singer machines my self. The biggest of them a Singer 144w 305 is made in USA has ok quality, the other 2 is made in Scotland are crap. I hope this was at some help! Reg. Trox Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites