american samurai Report post Posted January 27, 2011 An antique Japanese (samurai) Edo period karuta katabira, a type of armored jacket with around 2 thousand small leather armor plates connected to each other by chain armor (kusari). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skippy Report post Posted January 27, 2011 the scales on the actual armour were occasionally made from leather also,once they had been painted with many layers they were quite strong. this reminds me of the undercoat which was worn under the main armour. nice find Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
american samurai Report post Posted January 27, 2011 the scales on the actual armour were occasionally made from leather also,once they had been painted with many layers they were quite strong. this reminds me of the undercoat which was worn under the main armour. nice find Skippy your right, samurai scale armor parts sometimes would use alternating leather and iron scales, once the scales were lacquered and laced together you would need a magnet to tell the leather scales from the iron ones. The katabira I pictured was more likely to have been worn under a kimono then under armor, this type of armored clothing would be worn while out and about. The type of under armor you mentioned would be more like a form fitting vest and shorter. These were called manchira and manju no wa, both of these types of armored clothings were often lined with small hexagon leather plates called ''kikko''. Here some examples.A 1600s chest armour ''dou'' made from many small overlapping individual scales, lacquered and laced together. This was a very time consuming and expensive way to manufacture armor. Without running a magnet over the individual scales it would be impossible to tell leather scales from iron scales. This is a ''manchira'', a type of armored vest which could be worn under armor as extra protection and padding. Small hexagon leather plates ''kikko'' are sewn between layers of cloth and hidden from view. The standing collar of this manchira was also lined with kikko to protect the back of the neck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skippy Report post Posted January 28, 2011 absolutly love the design of samurai armour.especially the earlier versions with all the rows laced together. some nice pics there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
american samurai Report post Posted January 29, 2011 The Japanese were great leather workers, not just in armor but also in clothing, horse related items, storage containers and leather covers for various items, here are a few examples. A pair of gloves "yugake" that would be worn with armor, made from soft deer leather, with stenciled designs. A war hat "jingasa'' made from hardened leather A pair of shoes "kutsu" made from tough leather with small iron pieces attached to the soles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites