Mike Craw Posted March 3, 2011 Report Posted March 3, 2011 A lady came into the shop this afternoon with this saddle for Carlos to look at. She wanted some information about its origins and possible value. The stirrups, apparently iron, looked Persian to me and the general style looks similar to the basic tree arrangement on the Circassian Saddle that Dick Sherer wrote about in the Sept/Oct issue of LC&SJ. Any input would be appreciated. Mike Quote
Mike Craw Posted March 4, 2011 Author Report Posted March 4, 2011 45 of you looked at it, and you don't know either? How about it saddle historians? Mike Quote
Members oldtimer Posted March 6, 2011 Members Report Posted March 6, 2011 (edited) A lady came into the shop this afternoon with this saddle for Carlos to look at. She wanted some information about its origins and possible value. The stirrups, apparently iron, looked Persian to me and the general style looks similar to the basic tree arrangement on the Circassian Saddle that Dick Sherer wrote about in the Sept/Oct issue of LC&SJ. Any input would be appreciated. Mike The general style looks Mongolian to me http://www.travelblo...g/Photos/477212 / Knut Edited March 6, 2011 by oldtimer Quote
Contributing Member Denise Posted March 7, 2011 Contributing Member Report Posted March 7, 2011 Neat site, Oldtimer. But I don't think it is Mongolian - at least not the same style. I am attaching a picture of a tree that some people who travelled to the far east brought back with them. They said it was a Mongolian saddle tree. And this picture further down the list on the site you link to shows the front of the tree looking more like the picture I posted rather than the one Mike Craw posted. http://www.travelblo...g/Photos/477317 It looks somewhat like a picture I have of a Native American saddle tree. I'm sorry, but I don't know where I found those pictures on the net anymore, and I don't think they did leatherwork like this. So I sure can't help in figuring out where it came from either. Quote
Mike Craw Posted March 7, 2011 Author Report Posted March 7, 2011 Thanks to both of you for taking the time to look and give me some feedback. I have no clue... Mike Quote
Members oldtimer Posted March 7, 2011 Members Report Posted March 7, 2011 I´ll make a second attempt : The general shape of the saddle looks very similar to this Hungarian saddle. http://www.folkline.hu/kiadvanyok/hh_03/hungarian_saddle.html / Knut Quote
mendedbowl Posted March 7, 2011 Report Posted March 7, 2011 Hi Mike, I've found a few sites with saddle pics that you may wish to compare to your saddle. (I think your guess was correct) on the first site, scroll down a little and compare saddle type 3. from Caucasus and Kazakhstan. 1st site here on the second site is a Circassian saddle. 2nd site here the third site is an eBay auction. check the pics without the thick seat pad. notice the underside of the bars is almost identical to your saddle. 3rd site the last is a 19th century Cossack saddle. enlarge the pic, and you call see how the overall shape is similar. last site ken Quote
Mike Craw Posted March 7, 2011 Author Report Posted March 7, 2011 Hey Oldtimer and Mendedbowl! I really appreciate your efforts, and I think that you have zeroed in on the area of the world where this thing originated. I have some more sites to look at, but the saddle itself looks Russian and the stirrups look Moroccan. This is fun! Thanks again for the help!! Mike Quote
Members The Farmers Daughter Posted March 10, 2011 Members Report Posted March 10, 2011 (edited) I believe that saddle has Chinese origins. Here is a link you may find useful http://www.chinesedi...america-saddle/ Edited March 10, 2011 by The Farmers Daughter Quote
Contributing Member Denise Posted March 10, 2011 Contributing Member Report Posted March 10, 2011 Interesting site, Farmer's Daughter. Their first "Ancient Asian saddle" picture here: http://www.antiques-arms.com/catalog/images/suc175c.jpg is almost identical to the one I posted above. Both the "fork" and the cantle are much wider than the one Mike posted, but it is interesting the similarities between the North American one I posted and the one Mike posted that looks like the Circassian one. Saddle history is interesting!! Quote
Members oldtimer Posted March 10, 2011 Members Report Posted March 10, 2011 Interesting site, Farmer's Daughter. Their first "Ancient Asian saddle" picture here: http://www.antiques-...ges/suc175c.jpg is almost identical to the one I posted above. Both the "fork" and the cantle are much wider than the one Mike posted, but it is interesting the similarities between the North American one I posted and the one Mike posted that looks like the Circassian one. Saddle history is interesting!! The American "cousins" of those Circassian and Mongolian and Chinese saddles are the Ringgold Dragoon saddles ( 1844) and the Grimsley Dragoon saddles ( 1847), very similar in shape. / Knut Quote
Members abaze Posted November 11, 2011 Members Report Posted November 11, 2011 (edited) Circassian saddle stirrup and not buckle Edited November 11, 2011 by abaze Quote
Members Cat Balou Posted February 8, 2012 Members Report Posted February 8, 2012 Late to the party, but I just joined last week so nothing to be done. Mike, that's a Polish saddle. Don't have a date for it 'tho. Quote
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