karl Report post Posted June 28, 2008 Hello fellas and gals, Here are some more feathers I carved and the little one I think would be the feather off of a "Buffalo Wing." LOL Karl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anne newkold Report post Posted June 28, 2008 you should write up a tutorial for these Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karl Report post Posted June 29, 2008 you should write up a tutorial for these Thanks Anne. I've never written up a tutorial before and want to do a few more to be sure that I'm doing it decent enough to do a tutorial on one. Actually they are fun to make once you start making them, my problem is blending and mixing the colors for the proper color for the type if bird feather I am trying to depict. Karl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pavilionpony Report post Posted July 1, 2008 you should write up a tutorial for these My thoughts exactly. Those are more awesome feathers Karl! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karl Report post Posted July 1, 2008 (edited) Cindiy, I wouldn't mind doing a tutorial, but I bought a DVD on how to make feathers and I am afraid if I tried to do that, there would be a patent or copyright infringment I'm not sure and don't wanna end up teaching leathercraft in the "Big House" LOL Karl Edited July 1, 2008 by karl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sharpshooter Report post Posted July 25, 2008 Karl I'll tell you this for somewhat selfish reasons.... You would not be violating copyright by doing your own tutorial since the actual product, the tutorial, is YOUR WORK and not that of whoever did the DVD you learned from. Following your line of reasoning, anyone using the English language would be violating Webster's copyrite since they used all of the words in their Dictionary and have a copyright on it. Copyright protects the actual product, in this case the DVD, were you to take the DVD, and re-record it with your own label, you are using their entire work without them receiving whatever it was they required in exchange for their work (usually money). The DVD was produced to sell; in exchange for the purchase price, the purchaser can learn to make leather feathers. The seller does NOT have a right to control how that knowledge is used under a simple copyright, so if you wish to use the knowledge to develop your own tutorial or even a DVD you aren't violating their work. A copyright is not the same as a patent which protects a process or product. The selfish reason is that I want to see how that's done and since you didn't mention who made the DVD and I'm really too cheap to buy it anyway, your tutorial would be cool to check out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corvus Report post Posted July 25, 2008 I really like the feathers, a tutorial would be great. As long as it is in your own words you would not be breeching any copyright. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whinewine Report post Posted July 26, 2008 KarlYou would not be violating copyright by doing your own tutorial since the actual product, the tutorial, is YOUR WORK and not that of whoever did the DVD you learned from. Following your line of reasoning, anyone using the English language would be violating Webster's copyrite since they used all of the words in their Dictionary and have a copyright on it. Copyright protects the actual product, in this case the DVD, were you to take the DVD, and re-record it with your own label, you are using their entire work without them receiving whatever it was they required in exchange for their work (usually money). The DVD was produced to sell; in exchange for the purchase price, the purchaser can learn to make leather feathers. The seller does NOT have a right to control how that knowledge is used under a simple copyright, so if you wish to use the knowledge to develop your own tutorial or even a DVD you aren't violating their work. A copyright is not the same as a patent which protects a process or product. Y'know, when I go to Staples to have something xeroxed so I don't have to hand trace, or (worse), cut up the article out of the magazine to glue onto cardboard, I end up fighting with the morons they hire who insist that: "because-it-is-copyrighted,-I-cannot-legally-copy-it-for-you..." I try to explain, that even though it is copyrighted, it was copyrighted for the express purpose of making copies for leathercrafters to copy so they can make copies to copy... I then propose this question: "if I own the copyright to a particular article because I sold that particular article to that particular magazine & I sold it to them with me retaining all rights except first North American Serial Rights ((and yes, btw, I have sold numerous articles to various publications, among them, Make It With Leather)), why can I not copy this article as I so choose?"... and the morons can only reply [because this is beyond their ken of understanding]...'because the magazine is copyrighted'... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Report post Posted July 27, 2008 Y'know, when I go to Staples to have something xeroxed so I don't have to hand trace, or (worse), cut up the article out of the magazine to glue onto cardboard, I end up fighting with the morons they hire who insist that: "because-it-is-copyrighted,-I-cannot-legally-copy-it-for-you..." I had the same problem there. A customer had given me a copy of his log to carve into something. I took it to Staples to enlarge on the xerox machine and was told the same thing. Forget about explaining to the clerk - he wouldn't budge, I ended up tracing the logo and ten going back and had my tracing enlarged. Now I don't ask the clerk - just go in and used the self service machines. Ian Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trastu Report post Posted August 12, 2008 REALMENTE SON MUY BONITAS. ME GUSTA MUCHO EL COLOR QUE LES PUSISTES. SALUD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bree Report post Posted August 12, 2008 Cindiy, I wouldn't mind doing a tutorial, but I bought a DVD on how to make feathers and I am afraid if I tried to do that, there would be a patent or copyright infringment I'm not sure and don't wanna end up teaching leathercraft in the "Big House" LOL Karl Show how you did it in your own words using your own diagrams and images and you will be just fine. Ideas, techniques, and processes are not copyrightable only a particular description, explanation, or illustration of them can be copyrighted. Super job on the feathers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karl Report post Posted August 12, 2008 My fellow leather crafters, I have a few things to do this week plus my regular job but I will do a tutorial in my own words and pictures this week end if I can get my camera to take photos without blurring, and I do love to make leather feathers and also now that I am embossing several different peoples faces and animals I may do the same thing with them. Karl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cybertracy Report post Posted August 13, 2008 Cindiy, I wouldn't mind doing a tutorial, but I bought a DVD on how to make feathers and I am afraid if I tried to do that, there would be a patent or copyright infringment I'm not sure and don't wanna end up teaching leathercraft in the "Big House" LOL Karl Hi Karl, looking forward to your tutorial! Can you tell me the author/publisher of your DVD? I cannot seem to find a book or video anywhere on this amazing art. Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karl Report post Posted August 13, 2008 Tracy, I bought that DVD from Hide Crafters and it was done by Rob Barr,God rest his soul he really knew his stuff. Karl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trastu Report post Posted August 20, 2008 My fellow leather crafters, I have a few things to do this week plus my regular job but I will do a tutorial in my own words and pictures this week end if I can get my camera to take photos without blurring, and I do love to make leather feathers and also now that I am embossing several differentpeoples faces and animals I may do the same thing with them. Karl we expect the tutorial impatient. thanks in advance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
