ironhead13 Report post Posted March 30, 2012 Ok... first post containing something I've done. I finished these two today, a few more coming when I get to "hammering" them out. No two will be alike, though club belts, each will be unique from each other as after I do something once Im not motived to do it again (very short attention span!).... then things get real messy! I don't mean to put up a bunch of pics, but I hard time capturing them and doing so in direct sunlight turned out to not be the best choice viewing them on the computer. So, if an area looks pinkish, it is not. I decided to post some close ups to kinda show some detail as the design is really long, and on a full shot it didn't seem as present. Also, the grass shadowed certain spots which may appear to be dye mishaps. I have not tooled a design in about 13 months and not really done much tooling at all. Mostly mess with holsters and such. Even though I used the 1" stamps for the letters, I just stamped them enough for the outline then I cut them with my 3/8 swivel. That may be the wrong way to do it, but I prefer it rather than stamping everything as it feels like cheating and was a bit of challange for me. The designs though basic were free handed on one side, then i transfered that on tracing paper so the other side would look similar. I used fiebings black oil dye, and red solvent dye which was airbrushed. Fniished off with heating and rubbing in beeswax and neatsfoot oil. Will post the others as I complete them. Feel free to say they suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leatherimages Report post Posted March 30, 2012 Well that's some pretty beautiful cheating, if there is any. I enjoyed the look at your work. Cool man! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luke Hatley Report post Posted March 30, 2012 (edited) ....Fine looking Belts............Is there a reason for that spelling (GHOST)? Edited March 30, 2012 by Luke Hatley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ironhead13 Report post Posted March 30, 2012 Well that's some pretty beautiful cheating, if there is any. I enjoyed the look at your work. Cool man! Thanks, Im trying. For the cheating part, I have no problem using letter stamps. But I figure using them for the outline, then cutting them with the knife will help me get better at doing small curves or working in tight spots. Plus, it adds to the hand made concept. If no one ever knows it or not, I will. ....Fine looking Belts............Is there a reason for that spelling (GHOST)? Appreciated. Im sorry though, I don't quite understand the question. If you are aking if Ghost is an acronym, then no it's not. The club was founded in '71 and the name came from Ghostriders in the sky. Starting two more today, not sure how far into it I will get. I have a working idea in my head for one. I'll probably just cut the straps and set the holes today when time allows. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bluesman Report post Posted March 30, 2012 Outstanding. When you can show your backgrounds up that close they must be good. And they are!_!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cyberthrasher Report post Posted March 30, 2012 Feel free to say they suck! Ok, They Suck. Now, do you want the truth? I think they're really good. That airbrushing came out really cool and I can tell the difference in cutting vs. stamping. I think it makes things pop a lot better that way. Keep it up and make sure you post the other ones. I'm supposed to start on a belt soon that's likely going to be the same color scheme, so we can compare notes at that time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chancey77 Report post Posted March 31, 2012 Ya I see you liked my backgrounds/ border Liners:) hahaha J/K looks great dude! Finally some pics up very nice!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cyberthrasher Report post Posted March 31, 2012 Ya I see you liked my backgrounds/ border Liners:) hahaha yeah, it's hard not to have our work look like yours when you come up with so many cool ideas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chancey77 Report post Posted March 31, 2012 hahahahah OMG!!!!!!!!!! JUST KIDDING!!!! Or AM I:::::EVLLHR! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ironhead13 Report post Posted April 1, 2012 Ya I see you liked my backgrounds/ border Liners:) hahaha J/K looks great dude! Finally some pics up very nice!!! HA, actually I did steal something I saw from one of your pics (at least knowingly anyhow!). The third pic down of the longer continous flames, I had originally just beveled it smooth and was happy. Then I went around it with a different beveler (as sometimes I cannot leave well enough alone!!!!!!!!) that has finer patterns dots in it. But, I cannot use that tool (don't know the tool number off my head) and it come out looking good. Looked way to choppy no matter how I sued it (leaving edges everywhere), so I figured it was the perfect time to trying using the backgrounder to make a bolder ouline and possibly save it from disaster. It did I think! Tooled two more today, got some print jobs to do tomorrow, so I'll probably dye and finished them on monday. I need a different swivel knife I think! Those tight curves in those letters was killing me today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cyberthrasher Report post Posted April 1, 2012 I need a different swivel knife I think! Those tight curves in those letters was killing me today. I have that same problem. I'm getting better at it the more I do them, but I'm still thinking about a filigree blade to help out some. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ironhead13 Report post Posted April 1, 2012 I have that same problem. I'm getting better at it the more I do them, but I'm still thinking about a filigree blade to help out some. Im thinking about beefing up the barrel and see what that does. Thinking about it now, I think it's the slinderness of the tool rather than what Im doing with it. I should just backspace that whole line.... oh well! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chancey77 Report post Posted April 1, 2012 (edited) Im thinking about beefing up the barrel and see what that does. Thinking about it now, I think it's the slinderness of the tool rather than what Im doing with it. I should just backspace that whole line.... oh well! It is a lot of work to pound that background with the tool you are using...I do it all the time! It takes doing it a lot to get it perfect...but you are killing it and the belts look great! The thing you did to the 718 is called inverted carving:) You backgrounded what normally would be the main picture...Inverted Carving:) Here is my sons belt...same color scheme. The background I used here is A885. You used A888 or should have, there is a much smaller one for very small stuff like the inside of an A. A888-2...it is a real time sucker and that is why I almost always now use the A855. But I do like the look and still use the A888 from time to time! I do use that A888 to outline a lot of stuff and also use it for inverted backgrounds:) It is pretty standard. After you use the A885 like I did re-stamp your letters to give the nice impression you originally had before you started backgrounding. Don't use the pebble backgrounder to surround letters it always looks messy. Like in the first pic you did...(It would be ok if you would have done it all the way through the background of the letters but you only did around each letter and it looks a bit uneven) I think you learned that lesson and tried something else...which is looking good! Just Re-Stamp the Letters after backgrounding. Color the letters black first and then add the red...black doesn't cover over red very well for some reason if you get red on the letters by accident but if it is black first it still may discolor, but hit it with black again and it will be all good! Remember; If it aint fun it aint worth doing! And you can always give them my number....hahahahaha Just kidding! Keep up the good work! My stuff has flaws and isn't always perfect the day it is maybe I'll get hit by a bus or something better! All we can do is learn something new everyday and do the best we could...cause to people who can't do anything for themselves our flaws are their white whale! I used to work for this lady in NY who's husband was a surgon and wouldn't even change a lightbulb or fix the chain on the toilet! So I know most people are just not mechanically inclined(even surgeons)...and that is ok to! I need their money to feed my kids! Until then we are all just humans...at least until the Robots and LASERS TAKE OVER!!!!!!!!!! hahahahaha Edited April 1, 2012 by chancey77 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ironhead13 Report post Posted April 2, 2012 It is a lot of work to pound that background with the tool you are using...I do it all the time! It takes doing it a lot to get it perfect...but you are killing it and the belts look great! The thing you did to the 718 is called inverted carving:) You backgrounded what normally would be the main picture...Inverted Carving:) Here is my sons belt...same color scheme. The background I used here is A885. You used A888 or should have, there is a much smaller one for very small stuff like the inside of an A. A888-2...it is a real time sucker and that is why I almost always now use the A855. But I do like the look and still use the A888 from time to time! I do use that A888 to outline a lot of stuff and also use it for inverted backgrounds:) It is pretty standard. After you use the A885 like I did re-stamp your letters to give the nice impression you originally had before you started backgrounding. Don't use the pebble backgrounder to surround letters it always looks messy. Like in the first pic you did...(It would be ok if you would have done it all the way through the background of the letters but you only did around each letter and it looks a bit uneven) I think you learned that lesson and tried something else...which is looking good! Just Re-Stamp the Letters after backgrounding. Color the letters black first and then add the red...black doesn't cover over red very well for some reason if you get red on the letters by accident but if it is black first it still may discolor, but hit it with black again and it will be all good! Remember; If it aint fun it aint worth doing! And you can always give them my number....hahahahaha Just kidding! Keep up the good work! My stuff has flaws and isn't always perfect the day it is maybe I'll get hit by a bus or something better! All we can do is learn something new everyday and do the best we could...cause to people who can't do anything for themselves our flaws are their white whale! I used to work for this lady in NY who's husband was a surgon and wouldn't even change a lightbulb or fix the chain on the toilet! So I know most people are just not mechanically inclined(even surgeons)...and that is ok to! I need their money to feed my kids! Until then we are all just humans...at least until the Robots and LASERS TAKE OVER!!!!!!!!!! hahahahaha Yeah, did all the black first, then the red. It kinda made a bronze effect with any that layed on the black. But adding a touch of oil and rubbing in the wax seemed to have cleaned that up. I assume it was just extra pigment sitting on top. For the pebble deal, I had never used it and figured Id give it a shot. The letters were allready cut and beveled and wasn't sure if I was gonna do more. Grabbed that tool, and decided not to do the entire background. The reason for that decision was I kinda liked how it looked, but I may use it again on one of the others as a full background. The only stamp tools I used other than the pebbler was 688 and 888 for the other background. And b935, 205, 200, 941 for the bevelers. The belt you posted looks great, restamping the the letters really brings them out. But I cut mine, so no restamping. I have though, learned recently there is another piece apperantly needed to pound those 1" letters down... lol. But, cutting them, though probably has taken away alot of definition, it has been great for practicing with the knife. Start of the 4th, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chancey77 Report post Posted April 2, 2012 Ya the extensions for the letter handle is key, it enables you to rock the letters front /back side to side better and get a much deeper impression...only problem is that the marks of the letter for what is top and bottom will disappear over time so just take some nail polish and mark the bottom towards you so you know the letter is facing the proper direction:) I have made up side down letters a few times...it is very frustrating!!!!!!!! The thing about stamping the letters is ya it is generic but sometimes it is more than good enough for some jobs. I have hand cut 15 club belts fonts at a time and I wish I would have talked them into stamps, but they get what they want and pay for. Plus the thing about the stamps is you have a nice trough for the color to pool into. As you can see in my close up the red pools real nice and you can be a bit more speedy and sloppy and it will just fall into the proper valley. All in all a belt like that takes me about 4-5 hours so if you are in that realm your are cookin' pretty good and keep up the pace! Put on some Samhain and rock that sh*t out! Or some Sixgun Republic:) hahaha;) EVEN BETTER! TTYL8R! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cyberthrasher Report post Posted April 2, 2012 Put on some Samhain and rock that sh*t out! I think there's a total of 3 people on this forum that might understand that....... and look, we're all right here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chancey77 Report post Posted April 2, 2012 I think there's a total of 3 people on this forum that might understand that....... and look, we're all right here. hahahahaha Maybe your right...there might be a few closet Samhain fans out there!...hahahaha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ironhead13 Report post Posted April 3, 2012 (edited) sam who? Today was old slayer day. Which works fine for cutting up dead flesh But not so well with NOT f'n ^ when applying dye....... Edited April 3, 2012 by ironhead13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chancey77 Report post Posted April 3, 2012 hahahahhaahaha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cyberthrasher Report post Posted April 3, 2012 Today was old slayer day. Which works fine for cutting up dead flesh But not so well with NOT f'n ^ when applying dye....... Yeah, you gotta rock out with your feet in that situation. But, it works great for tooling - Especially if you're listening to "Dead Skin Mask"........."mr. king? I'm not having fun anymore" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ironhead13 Report post Posted April 4, 2012 Yeah, you gotta rock out with your feet in that situation. But, it works great for tooling - Especially if you're listening to "Dead Skin Mask"........."mr. king? I'm not having fun anymore" :eusa_naughty: :eusa_naughty: :eusa_naughty: ahhhhhhhh! Sorry! She's actually saying Mr. Gein, as the song is about Ed Gein!! 1 of around 5 or 6 songs based upon a serial killer, but Im sure you know that. Chancey Checked out Sixgun Republic, put two and two together... being 5 and that your in the band, cool stuff. used to do the band/music thing....about 20 over the limit, tight curve, used oil barrel tipped over in a truck 10-20 mins before I came though...... yeah....left arm just ain't never been quite right ever since. Anyhow, finished these two. Again, can't seem to get the right pic, light is the enemy! but no matter. I hate trible (spawning from my time working in tattoo shops) thought it may be cool to tool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cyberthrasher Report post Posted April 4, 2012 finished these two. Again, can't seem to get the right pic, light is the enemy! but no matter. I hate trible (spawning from my time working in tattoo shops) thought it may be cool to tool. That's more celtic than tribal, so it's Ok. Tribal is ALL I ever did when tattooing and I really grew to hate it. They're looking great. That "Mr. King" thing is more of an inside joke/reference that we had decided on because Kerry King is crazy enough to have written a song about himself and just hidden behind the name of Gein Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ironhead13 Report post Posted April 5, 2012 That's more celtic than tribal, so it's Ok. Tribal is ALL I ever did when tattooing and I really grew to hate it. They're looking great. That "Mr. King" thing is more of an inside joke/reference that we had decided on because Kerry King is crazy enough to have written a song about himself and just hidden behind the name of Gein Yeah, that tribal crap got old real fast. Im not sure how many people I've seen wanting that goldberg tribal piece.....My guy, will not do tribal. He'll send'em on to one of the other guys. But, yeah I suppose you are correct, being more celtic. I kinda figured there may have been something more to the mr. king thing! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cyberthrasher Report post Posted April 5, 2012 Yeah, it's those things you come up with as a teenager when you're limited to no friends hanging out in a basement listening to metal while drinking whatever is available. Ah, the good old days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ironhead13 Report post Posted April 5, 2012 Yea! no internet and you had to search for the good stuff (except for a few) and the people that were into it were not fake. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
