Members Cyberthrasher Posted April 1, 2012 Members Report Posted April 1, 2012 I need a different swivel knife I think! Those tight curves in those letters was killing me today. I have that same problem. I'm getting better at it the more I do them, but I'm still thinking about a filigree blade to help out some. Quote hellhoundkustoms.wordpress.com www.facebook.com/hellhoundkustoms www.etsy.com/shop/HellhoundKustoms
Members ironhead13 Posted April 1, 2012 Author Members Report Posted April 1, 2012 I have that same problem. I'm getting better at it the more I do them, but I'm still thinking about a filigree blade to help out some. Im thinking about beefing up the barrel and see what that does. Thinking about it now, I think it's the slinderness of the tool rather than what Im doing with it. I should just backspace that whole line.... oh well! Quote www.sacredartscreenprinting.com
Members chancey77 Posted April 1, 2012 Members Report Posted April 1, 2012 (edited) Im thinking about beefing up the barrel and see what that does. Thinking about it now, I think it's the slinderness of the tool rather than what Im doing with it. I should just backspace that whole line.... oh well! It is a lot of work to pound that background with the tool you are using...I do it all the time! It takes doing it a lot to get it perfect...but you are killing it and the belts look great! The thing you did to the 718 is called inverted carving:) You backgrounded what normally would be the main picture...Inverted Carving:) Here is my sons belt...same color scheme. The background I used here is A885. You used A888 or should have, there is a much smaller one for very small stuff like the inside of an A. A888-2...it is a real time sucker and that is why I almost always now use the A855. But I do like the look and still use the A888 from time to time! I do use that A888 to outline a lot of stuff and also use it for inverted backgrounds:) It is pretty standard. After you use the A885 like I did re-stamp your letters to give the nice impression you originally had before you started backgrounding. Don't use the pebble backgrounder to surround letters it always looks messy. Like in the first pic you did...(It would be ok if you would have done it all the way through the background of the letters but you only did around each letter and it looks a bit uneven) I think you learned that lesson and tried something else...which is looking good! Just Re-Stamp the Letters after backgrounding. Color the letters black first and then add the red...black doesn't cover over red very well for some reason if you get red on the letters by accident but if it is black first it still may discolor, but hit it with black again and it will be all good! Remember; If it aint fun it aint worth doing! And you can always give them my number....hahahahaha Just kidding! Keep up the good work! My stuff has flaws and isn't always perfect the day it is maybe I'll get hit by a bus or something better! All we can do is learn something new everyday and do the best we could...cause to people who can't do anything for themselves our flaws are their white whale! I used to work for this lady in NY who's husband was a surgon and wouldn't even change a lightbulb or fix the chain on the toilet! So I know most people are just not mechanically inclined(even surgeons)...and that is ok to! I need their money to feed my kids! Until then we are all just humans...at least until the Robots and LASERS TAKE OVER!!!!!!!!!! hahahahaha Edited April 1, 2012 by chancey77 Quote
Members ironhead13 Posted April 2, 2012 Author Members Report Posted April 2, 2012 It is a lot of work to pound that background with the tool you are using...I do it all the time! It takes doing it a lot to get it perfect...but you are killing it and the belts look great! The thing you did to the 718 is called inverted carving:) You backgrounded what normally would be the main picture...Inverted Carving:) Here is my sons belt...same color scheme. The background I used here is A885. You used A888 or should have, there is a much smaller one for very small stuff like the inside of an A. A888-2...it is a real time sucker and that is why I almost always now use the A855. But I do like the look and still use the A888 from time to time! I do use that A888 to outline a lot of stuff and also use it for inverted backgrounds:) It is pretty standard. After you use the A885 like I did re-stamp your letters to give the nice impression you originally had before you started backgrounding. Don't use the pebble backgrounder to surround letters it always looks messy. Like in the first pic you did...(It would be ok if you would have done it all the way through the background of the letters but you only did around each letter and it looks a bit uneven) I think you learned that lesson and tried something else...which is looking good! Just Re-Stamp the Letters after backgrounding. Color the letters black first and then add the red...black doesn't cover over red very well for some reason if you get red on the letters by accident but if it is black first it still may discolor, but hit it with black again and it will be all good! Remember; If it aint fun it aint worth doing! And you can always give them my number....hahahahaha Just kidding! Keep up the good work! My stuff has flaws and isn't always perfect the day it is maybe I'll get hit by a bus or something better! All we can do is learn something new everyday and do the best we could...cause to people who can't do anything for themselves our flaws are their white whale! I used to work for this lady in NY who's husband was a surgon and wouldn't even change a lightbulb or fix the chain on the toilet! So I know most people are just not mechanically inclined(even surgeons)...and that is ok to! I need their money to feed my kids! Until then we are all just humans...at least until the Robots and LASERS TAKE OVER!!!!!!!!!! hahahahaha Yeah, did all the black first, then the red. It kinda made a bronze effect with any that layed on the black. But adding a touch of oil and rubbing in the wax seemed to have cleaned that up. I assume it was just extra pigment sitting on top. For the pebble deal, I had never used it and figured Id give it a shot. The letters were allready cut and beveled and wasn't sure if I was gonna do more. Grabbed that tool, and decided not to do the entire background. The reason for that decision was I kinda liked how it looked, but I may use it again on one of the others as a full background. The only stamp tools I used other than the pebbler was 688 and 888 for the other background. And b935, 205, 200, 941 for the bevelers. The belt you posted looks great, restamping the the letters really brings them out. But I cut mine, so no restamping. I have though, learned recently there is another piece apperantly needed to pound those 1" letters down... lol. But, cutting them, though probably has taken away alot of definition, it has been great for practicing with the knife. Start of the 4th, Quote www.sacredartscreenprinting.com
Members chancey77 Posted April 2, 2012 Members Report Posted April 2, 2012 Ya the extensions for the letter handle is key, it enables you to rock the letters front /back side to side better and get a much deeper impression...only problem is that the marks of the letter for what is top and bottom will disappear over time so just take some nail polish and mark the bottom towards you so you know the letter is facing the proper direction:) I have made up side down letters a few times...it is very frustrating!!!!!!!! The thing about stamping the letters is ya it is generic but sometimes it is more than good enough for some jobs. I have hand cut 15 club belts fonts at a time and I wish I would have talked them into stamps, but they get what they want and pay for. Plus the thing about the stamps is you have a nice trough for the color to pool into. As you can see in my close up the red pools real nice and you can be a bit more speedy and sloppy and it will just fall into the proper valley. All in all a belt like that takes me about 4-5 hours so if you are in that realm your are cookin' pretty good and keep up the pace! Put on some Samhain and rock that sh*t out! Or some Sixgun Republic:) hahaha;) EVEN BETTER! TTYL8R! Quote
Members Cyberthrasher Posted April 2, 2012 Members Report Posted April 2, 2012 Put on some Samhain and rock that sh*t out! I think there's a total of 3 people on this forum that might understand that....... and look, we're all right here. Quote hellhoundkustoms.wordpress.com www.facebook.com/hellhoundkustoms www.etsy.com/shop/HellhoundKustoms
Members chancey77 Posted April 2, 2012 Members Report Posted April 2, 2012 I think there's a total of 3 people on this forum that might understand that....... and look, we're all right here. hahahahaha Maybe your right...there might be a few closet Samhain fans out there!...hahahaha Quote
Members ironhead13 Posted April 3, 2012 Author Members Report Posted April 3, 2012 (edited) sam who? Today was old slayer day. Which works fine for cutting up dead flesh But not so well with NOT f'n ^ when applying dye....... Edited April 3, 2012 by ironhead13 Quote www.sacredartscreenprinting.com
Members Cyberthrasher Posted April 3, 2012 Members Report Posted April 3, 2012 Today was old slayer day. Which works fine for cutting up dead flesh But not so well with NOT f'n ^ when applying dye....... Yeah, you gotta rock out with your feet in that situation. But, it works great for tooling - Especially if you're listening to "Dead Skin Mask"........."mr. king? I'm not having fun anymore" Quote hellhoundkustoms.wordpress.com www.facebook.com/hellhoundkustoms www.etsy.com/shop/HellhoundKustoms
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