Members CWR Posted March 30, 2012 Members Report Posted March 30, 2012 I had a guy bring this saddle into the shop for new leathers and a swell cover. I have never seen any buckles like these. If you can't tell from the pictures they have a hook on the top and a stud on the bottom and the holes are on 1 5/8 centers. He wanted to put them back on, so he must like them. The original maker did not put a keeper on and he asked that I add them. I would think that they would be necessary to keep the stud from popping out of the bottom hole. The old leathers were were pretty pulled out where the hook fit. I don't know if this is due to the smaller size of the hook or just age and wear because this saddle is a user. Anyone have any experience with them? Who makes them? CW Quote 1 Thessalonians 4: 11,12
Moderator bruce johnson Posted March 30, 2012 Moderator Report Posted March 30, 2012 CW, They were originally called Fast Buckles and Ben Veach patented them. A few years ago he sold the patent and couldn't or wouldn't say who bought the rights. Since then a few places have knockoffs - pretty sure I saw some on Walsall's site and one of the saddle tree companies had a variation too. I haven't seen anyone come out and advertise they have the original Veach design. You were good to put a keeper on, they need one. I used quite a few of them. They are pretty quick to adjust. The big advantage I saw was that they twisted over a shorter length. That makes them really nice for short legged riders. They also ride over a latigo pretty smoothly too. I put a bunch of them on barrel saddles. Quote Bruce Johnson Malachi 4:2 "the windshield's bigger than the mirror, somewhere west of Laramie" - Dave Stamey Vintage Refurbished And Selected New Leather Tools For Sale - www.brucejohnsonleather.com
Members tnawrot2 Posted March 30, 2012 Members Report Posted March 30, 2012 I had a guy bring this saddle into the shop for new leathers and a swell cover. I have never seen any buckles like these. If you can't tell from the pictures they have a hook on the top and a stud on the bottom and the holes are on 1 5/8 centers. He wanted to put them back on, so he must like them. The original maker did not put a keeper on and he asked that I add them. I would think that they would be necessary to keep the stud from popping out of the bottom hole. The old leathers were were pretty pulled out where the hook fit. I don't know if this is due to the smaller size of the hook or just age and wear because this saddle is a user. Anyone have any experience with them? Who makes them? CW Sheridan Leather Outfitters carries this style of stirrup adjuster. I found the original patent application on google......http://www.google.de/patents?id=LGMmAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract#v=onepage&q&f=false Quote
Members horsewreck Posted March 31, 2012 Members Report Posted March 31, 2012 Veach Stirrup buckles are real popular with the cowboys down on the wet humid Texas Gulf Coast, because they are an open design that doesn't hold moisture against the stirrup leather which can cause the leather to rot like the blevin style of buckle can. It is important to use a keeper and or a stirrup hobble close to the buckle other wise it will come off the botton pin and will cause the upper hole to stretch out. I like the Veach buckle because it is fast, simple, and it's lack of a slide make for a good turn in the leather. I think they should be used more and I hope they will stay on the market.... Jeff Quote Horsewreck, aka, Jeff M. Hairgrove
Members CWR Posted April 2, 2012 Author Members Report Posted April 2, 2012 Thanks everyone. Jeff, you explained why the top holes were pulled out so much. I kinda like these too. I may start keeping some on hand. CW Quote 1 Thessalonians 4: 11,12
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