Members Andrew Chee Posted April 25, 2012 Members Report Posted April 25, 2012 Hi Andrew, This is a sample piece of 4-5 oz milled bridle that Matt from W&C sent me. I don't consider it "pebbled". Steve Yeah, that was what I was expecting from a milled leather. I guess my usage of the term "pebbled" may be incorrect. I was trying to describe the grain structure just like what you have in the picture. Milling will soften the leather but it will also "wrinkle" (maybe that's a better term?) the grain. So if you want the regular smooth grain of a veg tan leather then milling won't work. If you like that look then that's great. Staking is a different process that they do that softens the leather some without changing the look of the grain. Just by looking at it you would think that it's regular veg tan. It's softer than regular veg tan but not terribly soft and It's probably not as soft as the dry milled leather so I guess that's the tradeoff. Andrew Quote
Members Kustom Posted April 25, 2012 Members Report Posted April 25, 2012 Andrew, Do you know how they go about staking a hide? Steve Yeah, that was what I was expecting from a milled leather. I guess my usage of the term "pebbled" may be incorrect. I was trying to describe the grain structure just like what you have in the picture. Milling will soften the leather but it will also "wrinkle" (maybe that's a better term?) the grain. So if you want the regular smooth grain of a veg tan leather then milling won't work. If you like that look then that's great. Staking is a different process that they do that softens the leather some without changing the look of the grain. Just by looking at it you would think that it's regular veg tan. It's softer than regular veg tan but not terribly soft and It's probably not as soft as the dry milled leather so I guess that's the tradeoff. Andrew Quote
Members Andrew Chee Posted April 25, 2012 Members Report Posted April 25, 2012 As far as I know, the put it through a staking machine. I saw a dirty jobs video clip on that where they went to a leather factory and used a staking machine. What it actually does inside I don't really know. Andrew Quote
reddevil76 Posted May 23, 2012 Report Posted May 23, 2012 Hello everyone! I'm very new to leatherworking, recently I have made a bag which I have a problem with (please see the attached photo), I attached both side pieces from inside the bag, and turn it out when I done, but the bag look very beaten up, I did wet the leather to make it smoother before turning. Can someone please help me? I really need suggestion and recommendation. Cheers! (photo link) https://www.facebook...&type=3 Hi Eve, looking at your facebook pics, it appears that you are leaning towards designer bag looks. In that case, you might wanna avoid veg tan leathers. Once they "age", they will appear "dirty" to ladies who are used to fashion leather bags. Chris is right, chrome tan leathers might suit your needs better. However, some Japanese companies did succeed in making fashionable items while drumming in the beauty of aging leather. See this link for some inspiration (they hand sew portions of the bags, though not entirely) If you are inspired after this video, and would like to continue experimenting with veg tan leather, I would suggest 2-3 oz goat veg tan. It is soft enough to manipulate, and yet has enough body to look good when made into a bag. Regards, Dylan Quote
Members Eve Posted July 16, 2012 Author Members Report Posted July 16, 2012 (edited) Hi Eve, looking at your facebook pics, it appears that you are leaning towards designer bag looks. In that case, you might wanna avoid veg tan leathers. Once they "age", they will appear "dirty" to ladies who are used to fashion leather bags. Chris is right, chrome tan leathers might suit your needs better. However, some Japanese companies did succeed in making fashionable items while drumming in the beauty of aging leather. See this link for some inspiration (they hand sew portions of the bags, though not entirely) If you are inspired after this video, and would like to continue experimenting with veg tan leather, I would suggest 2-3 oz goat veg tan. It is soft enough to manipulate, and yet has enough body to look good when made into a bag. Regards, Dylan Hello Dylan Thank you for your great tip, I watched the video, and that just what I been looking for! ^_^ About the chrome tan and veg tan leather, I brought all my leather from Hong Kong, they sale as – what you see is what you get, unless I know what is chrome tan or veg tan, otherwise, they can't help >.<! veg tan leather no idea what tan is this >.< Also I brought a few diamond stitching chisel (4mm & 3mm) from HK (made in Japan), the problem is the hole is too big for thinner leather like sheep or goat hide, is there any chisel that will make smaller hole. Thanks! Eve Edited July 16, 2012 by Eve Quote
Members jrprottas Posted December 3, 2019 Members Report Posted December 3, 2019 On 4/19/2012 at 9:22 AM, Leather Girl said: Eve, Are you sewing the bag by hand? Sewing by hand has it's issues but I don't see much wrong with it either. The closeups would be better. Randi-Lee In what way is hand stitching different than machine stitching in terms of how the turned seam looks when turned out? Quote
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