Seat

[buddy saddle]

Hi guys and Gals,I have made two saddles,I am having a great deal of trouble making seat pattern,can someone tell me how?Some pictures would be great,Trouble with swell cover also,i really need some help,Buddy Saddle

[Sandy Robbins]

Hi guys and Gals,I have made two saddles,I am having a great deal of trouble making seat pattern,can someone tell me how?Some pictures would be great,Trouble with swell cover also,i really need some help,Buddy Saddle

Buddy, The Al Stohlman saddle making books are a good resource. It is more complicated to just show you with pictures. There is alot of measuring to do. Each tree is different. There are many saddle making dvds also.

Good luck

Sandy Robbins

[Russ]

Hi guys and Gals,I have made two saddles,I am having a great deal of trouble making seat pattern,can someone tell me how?Some pictures would be great,Trouble with swell cover also,i really need some help,Buddy Saddle

Personally, I don't use a pattern until the end, and then I use an old seat that doesn't necessarily fit; I use it as a guide for the bottom of the seat. I cut the seat out square, and spit it around the horn so it fits better. Put it on the draw down stand. Then I make the slits where the ears will go. Here it is, without the draw down strap on.

Then I start cutting around the swells. Very conservatively. And I mean, very, very, conservative cuts....a little at a time. I get the seat trimmed from the split in the hand hole around the swells and around where the front concho will go.

Pound around the hand hole so it will be marked on the back, so you can cut it out later. Then I let the seat dry. (with the draw down strap on, not like in this picture.

Once it's dry, I get out one of my old seats and use it as a guide for the bottom part of the saddle. My old seats (patterns), most of them don't fit. There's just too many variations in saddles. That's why I stay away from using patterns to cut out seats. Perhaps I use a little extra leather buy cutting out a square seat from the side, but not much. Here is a pic of me using a seat (on a different saddle than those above)

Wow, these pictures really suck on the site. Sorry about that

Edited April 30, 2012 by Russ

[buddy saddle]

Personally, I don't use a pattern until the end, and then I use an old seat that doesn't necessarily fit; I use it as a guide for the bottom of the seat. I cut the seat out square, and spit it around the horn so it fits better. Put it on the draw down stand. Then I make the slits where the ears will go. Here it is, without the draw down strap on.

Then I start cutting around the swells. Very conservatively. And I mean, very, very, conservative cuts....a little at a time. I get the seat trimmed from the split in the hand hole around the swells and around where the front concho will go.

Pound around the hand hole so it will be marked on the back, so you can cut it out later. Then I let the seat dry. (with the draw down strap on, not like in this picture.

Once it's dry, I get out one of my old seats and use it as a guide for the bottom part of the saddle. My old seats (patterns), most of them don't fit. There's just too many variations in saddles. That's why I stay away from using patterns to cut out seats. Perhaps I use a little extra leather buy cutting out a square seat from the side, but not much. Here is a pic of me using a seat (on a different saddle than those above)

Wow, these pictures really suck on the site. Sorry about that

Thanks for the info i will try it,Bud

Buddy, The Al Stohlman saddle making books are a good resource. It is more complicated to just show you with pictures. There is alot of measuring to do. Each tree is different. There are many saddle making dvds also.

Good luck

Sandy Robbins

I have the al stoleman books,guess I am having trouble understanding them,i will try harder Thanks Bud

[Sandy Robbins]

Thanks for the info i will try it,Bud

I have the al stoleman books,guess I am having trouble understanding them,i will try harder Thanks Bud

The best reference i use is the Harry Adams manual. This is what is was basically taught from. I agree the Stohlman's are a bit confusing sometimes.

Sandy

[Russ]

The best reference i use is the Harry Adams manual. This is what is was basically taught from. I agree the Stohlman's are a bit confusing sometimes.

Sandy

I will second this: Mr. Adams' manual is a lot clearer than the Stohlman books, especially for a beginner. Well worth the purchase if you want to pick up another reference book.

[buddy saddle]

The best reference i use is the Harry Adams manual. This is what is was basically taught from. I agree the Stohlman's are a bit confusing sometimes.

Sandy

Sandy where could i get a harry adams manual? Bud

[Sandy Robbins]

Sandy where could i get a harry adams manual? Bud

You have to call his daughter. Harry has passed. I am at work and don't have it with me. Maybe someone else out there can access it quicker. If not i can get it for you this evening. Sorry. I believe they are around 85.00 more or less. But a very good buy.

Sandy

[Newfman]

I found this:

http://www.saddlemakersshopmanual.info/Order_Now.html

Hope it helps.

Dennis

[Sandy Robbins]

http://www.saddlemakersshopmanual.info/Introduction.html

I googled his name and found this. Hope it helps!

Sandy

[Newfman]

Both posted the same thing at 11:10. Pretty funny. What are the odds on that?!