Members J Hayes Posted May 21, 2012 Members Report Posted May 21, 2012 I want to make a batch of sticky wax for hand stitching with linen. Is there any reason I can not use the sap that collects on the trunk of my pine trees for this? Thanks Jeremy Quote
mlapaglia Posted May 21, 2012 Report Posted May 21, 2012 Question, why not just use bees wax? It is what is normally used to wax thread. You do not want the thread too sticky. Bees wax does a great job. Michael Quote The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering. Bruce Lee
Members UberSquid Posted May 21, 2012 Members Report Posted May 21, 2012 Could you use one of those bees wax rings they sell at the hardware store to seal toilets? I can't find bees wax around here. Quote
Members renegadelizard Posted May 21, 2012 Members Report Posted May 21, 2012 Could you use one of those bees wax rings they sell at the hardware store to seal toilets? I can't find bees wax around here. Now that is a novel idea...bravo for thinking outside the box!!! Quote Havoc Holsters
mlapaglia Posted May 21, 2012 Report Posted May 21, 2012 Yes you could or you could get some on Ebay or even look around at some of the natural food stores. I got mine on Ebay. It was cheap and shipped fast. As long as its a new ring (eewwwww) it should be fine. Might not be 100% bees wax but as long as its malleable it should work fine. Michael Quote The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering. Bruce Lee
Members UberSquid Posted May 21, 2012 Members Report Posted May 21, 2012 The one I have I paid $2 for and it says 100% bees wax. It is really soft and stickyat room temp though. I plan on melting it down and mixing it with different ammounts of perafin until I find a consistency that I like then casting small blocks for later use. Quote
mlapaglia Posted May 21, 2012 Report Posted May 21, 2012 Try adding about 30% carnuba wax.. That should harden it up some and also make it good as a rub on finish when the resulting mixture is mixed 1:1 with neets foot oil. Quote The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering. Bruce Lee
Members ChuckBurrows Posted May 21, 2012 Members Report Posted May 21, 2012 I want to make a batch of sticky wax for hand stitching with linen. Is there any reason I can not use the sap that collects on the trunk of my pine trees for this? Thanks Jeremy That's what I use most times these days or the pitch from cut pine.........heat it and then pour into a tall narrow container that can be cut away - the dross (all the crap) will sink to the bottom as it cools - cut that off and you have nice clean pitch. The longer/hotter you heat it the more brittle it will get so be careful - I like a mix of the hard natural stuff and the softer natural stuff - heat to clean and then mix with beeswax (you can buy large amounts online from eBay or candle making supplies) or you can smaller amounts from sewing shops - more expensive that way though. Also check and see if you have any beekeepers in your are - many will give it away free or cheaply - heat/clean the same way I suggested for pitch. I generally use a mix of about 40% pitch and 60% beeswax (I'd never use paraffin wax since it gets too brittle in my experience). IMO once you use sticky wax - a version of coad - you will prefer it over plain beeswax - it helps lock the threads in place ans also adds anti-bacterial/fungal properties to the thread which is a good thing when using natural threads like linen or hemp. Quote Wild Rose Trading Company Two roads diverged in a wood, and I, I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference.
Members J Hayes Posted May 22, 2012 Author Members Report Posted May 22, 2012 That's what I use most times these days or the pitch from cut pine.........heat it and then pour into a tall narrow container that can be cut away - the dross (all the crap) will sink to the bottom as it cools - cut that off and you have nice clean pitch. The longer/hotter you heat it the more brittle it will get so be careful - I like a mix of the hard natural stuff and the softer natural stuff - heat to clean and then mix with beeswax (you can buy large amounts online from eBay or candle making supplies) or you can smaller amounts from sewing shops - more expensive that way though. Also check and see if you have any beekeepers in your are - many will give it away free or cheaply - heat/clean the same way I suggested for pitch. I generally use a mix of about 40% pitch and 60% beeswax (I'd never use paraffin wax since it gets too brittle in my experience). IMO once you use sticky wax - a version of coad - you will prefer it over plain beeswax - it helps lock the threads in place ans also adds anti-bacterial/fungal properties to the thread which is a good thing when using natural threads like linen or hemp. Chuck What is your method for collecting from cut pine? Jeremy Quote
Members ChuckBurrows Posted May 22, 2012 Members Report Posted May 22, 2012 I look for pockets of dry pitch when cutting firewood.....usually occurs with storm damaged trees that have "healed" Quote Wild Rose Trading Company Two roads diverged in a wood, and I, I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference.
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