2 Machines 1 Table

[Suemi]

Hey everyone,

I have been looking into purchasing a cylinder arm for some time. The hold up is my lack of space in my shop, and I can not fit another sewing table.

I am running a consew 255 on a large industrial table as is, and I was wondering if anyone has installed 2 machines on one table before? and if there were any negative issues with it?

Any pics would be helpful too.

I would appreciate any insight.

Thanks,

Rich

[Merl]

Hey, Suemi.

Yeah, more space seems to be most people's dilemma.

I just started working with leather myself but, I have several sewing machines from home size to industrial .

I usually do any sewing in the dinning room and use the our big dinning room table for a layout and cutting surface but, if I need to use one of the industrials I have to set the material up and then haul it down to the basement where the two motorized indies are (a real pain in the....)

During the warmer months I can set up in out in the wood working shop but, during the winter (when I do most of my sewing ) I am back to the basement witch is already full of other machinery for metal working and not really a good place for keeping cloth items clean.

I'm hoping to get a start on setting up a dedicated "Textile Craft " studio in our walk up third floor attic this winter but, I said the same thing last winter too and nothing got started then either.

So, you're trying to maximise your work space with two industrial machines on the same power stand?

I'm just wondering how you plan to run both machines?

When I got my second indi it was the head unit only and I thought I could switch it out with my 31-15 Singer when I wanted to use it.

Turns out the "new" machine (a 238-6 Pfaff) was just a little bit lower than the Singer and the drive belt would not tighten up on the hand wheel pulley.

Changing belt with the machine was out of the question (I'd rather cut my arm off then try to change that belt from one to another)

And besides, the knee lift lever didn't line up with the Pfaff so I would have to use the hand lift as well.( totally defeats the purpose of having the knee lift, right?)

So I broke down and got the power stand that was supposed to go with it in the first place and now everything is fine and dandy.

So all that doesn't really help you but, unless you're going to treadle one machine or the other (a good possibility) I think you're stuck with making room for another power stand.

One thing to consider is maybe the cylinder bed machine doesn't need a bigger table like you find with the flat bed machines.

I have been looking for a certain type of cylinder bed machine for some time now and I know I usually see them all mounted on what looks like a half table with lots of clearance for moving the work around to get it under the needle.

Maybe something like that would fit in your existing work space?

[Dirck]

A stand...I have a cylinder machine on a stand. It is on wheels and takes up half the area of a table.

[Trox]

Cobra class 4 and limitid space.

My friend from Sweden has his workshop on a boat with limited space. Here is how he solved the space problem. He bought a Ho Sing high-end mini servo for his Cobra class 4 and mounted it on the machine head. I have a similar motor on my 441, an Efka 1550. These mini servos are very strong and work best without a speed reducer. The Efka 1550 has a maximum power of 1800 watt and 8 Nm torque. They work best with a short flat belt like the one on the picture. On the new Dürkopp Adler 867 and 367 machines, they mount the Efka 1550 inside the machine head with direct drive on the main drive belt.

This is an expensive pro motor, however no need for a table and speed reducers. Quality will last for a long time. You will get support on Skype videophone and software upgrade on your PC from Efka for free. In addition, it is a dream to use, needle position, and great slow speed control, programmable for all stitch pattern, functions and extras. Save space and in the long run $. I am very satisfied with mine.

Trox

Cobra class 4 and limitid space.

My friend from Sweden has his workshop on a boat with limited space. Here is how he solved the space problem. He bought a Ho Sing high-end mini servo for his Cobra class 4 and mounted it on the machine head. I have a similar motor on my 441, an Efka 1550. These mini servos are very strong and work best without a speed reducer. The Efka 1550 has a maximum power of 1800 watt and 8 Nm torque. They work best with a short flat belt like the one on the picture. On the new Dürkopp Adler 867 and 367 machines, they mount the Efka 1550 inside the machine head with direct drive on the main drive belt.

This is an expensive pro motor, however no need for a table and speed reducers. Quality will last for a long time. You will get support on Skype videophone and software upgrade on your PC from Efka for free. In addition, it is a dream to use, needle position, and great slow speed control, programmable for all stitch pattern, functions and extras. Save space and in the long run $. I am very satisfied with mine.

Trox

[Suemi]

Thanks for all the insight everyone. I think I was a bit vague and in being so missed the boat. My table is literally 6'x5' which is an amazing workspace. I was lucky to find my set up as is. Since it is so large I was assuming I can just drill, my hopefully new 227, onto the same table off the end. sort of how the mini table looks from Dirck. Drill, or router out the holes for the belt and mount an old clutch. It all looks and works in my head but everyone I have spoken to thinks im crazy. Not to say thats not true, but i think its gotta work.

Or, if anyone is in LA and wants to swap a large table for a small one let me know.

All the best,

Rich