Round Knife - Bargain!

[Trox]

Yes I was just thinking the same would be very interesting, I also have a thing about quality handles these days they are generally poor quality and poorly shaped.

If you have not read all the post about mr Hale and co, you can check this out

http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=41396

http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=42100&hl=%2Bhale+%2Band

http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=38837&hl=%2Bhale+%2Band

I am sure they would be interested in whats has been going on with their and their fathers name.

Kayak45 sure would be interested in getting more info since he still have not got his money back from Hale, and it was some dollars too.

besides all this.

I am mostly interested in what they are doing regards their leather tools, if they are going to go for low priced tools or move up to their fathers company standard of tools again.

I hope they will see you and give you a update.

Good luck with that.

Thanks

Tor

[Les No6]

Im sure they will see me these types are always very nice and eager to chat to anyone with an interest, time permitting of course. The Hale subject dos look a bit dubious Goe Barnsley tools have always been priced below J Dixons, also there was a mention of steel, the old tools and Knives where made with hot forged spring steel nothing special, its the hot forging thats the special bit and expensive these days.

[Trox]

If you read/look in the book "Dictionary of leather-working tools, c. 1700-1950 and the tools of allied trades" by RA.A. Salaman. Impressing title and a very fine hand illustrated tool dictionary on about 400 pages.

There is at least twenty pages from Geo. Barnsleys tool cataloque, dated Sheffield 1898. He are represented in boot and shoe making tools, tools for tanners and Currier's, he also had some tools for harness and saddler's. He has a huge selection of different tools. Other Sheffield makers mention in the book is: Oxley, James and Wing, Thos.

In Ward & Payne`s Cataloque, Sheffield, there is a lot of Saddler/harness tools too. The tools look very similar to both Dixon and Barnsley.

There are two Dixon companies registered: Dixon, Thomas& son Walsall and Dixon, Joseph Tool co Walsall (who is the son of Thomas and still in business. He is a member of this forum and more than 90 years old, as you know) Their cataloque is not in the book. However, they look exactly as the tools who was sold by Hamton & Scott`s Equine Album Walsall, c 1900.

There is a lot of other English tool makers listed in the book, in the old times there was a tool maker in every backyard. The tools patterns was often the same used by many companies, this was also case with French and American tools.

So who made the first tool of it kind can be hard to find out if it was not patented, then when the patent expired other makers reproduced it if it was a popular tool or machine.

We see a lot of examples on this both in leather tools and sewing-machines. This book is very helpful to me when I buy old leather tools. I have old tools from both J,Dixon, T Dixon and Geo Barnsley.

Old steel is like wine, if you keep it the right way its getting better by the years.

I like both European and American tools and I have not found any new stuff that can match the good old hand made tools.

Then I have not payed 6 -700 dollars for a custom made round knife yet, so I do not know if they are better. However I am planning to buy a custom made Knipshield blade for my Dixon plough, they look awesome and I am told they preform very well too.

I cannot wait to get a update from the Barnsleys. Make sure to ask them if their tools can be bought directly from them, and if they will make new saddlers tools from the old pattern inthe good old quality. Tell them they have too., Ha Ha

In advance thanks.

Good luck

Leather Tool freak.

Tor

[Les No6]

I don't have the book you refer to, there still a few knife makers left in Sheffield, J Adams makes some leather knifes, shoe knives clip point and broad point and a French patern knife. I have a new old stock H Brindley blade in my plough and its very good it takes an acute edge and slow to dull, it came with a plough I had two still packed in grease and paper didn't like the ploughs though. As soon as I get a free day in the week I shall pop through to Sheffield, it's nice to see people collecting these old tools I collect old harness ornaments and don't have room for any thing else.

[Trox]

I don't have the book you refer to, there still a few knife makers left in Sheffield, J Adams makes some leather knifes, shoe knives clip point and broad point and a French patern knife. I have a new old stock H Brindley blade in my plough and its very good it takes an acute edge and slow to dull, it came with a plough I had two still packed in grease and paper didn't like the ploughs though. As soon as I get a free day in the week I shall pop through to Sheffield, it's nice to see people collecting these old tools I collect old harness ornaments and don't have room for any thing else.

Hi, The book are available on amazon. I did not know H Brindley still was in business, I think I saw the stuff from J Adams somewhere. I would love to see it again, Brindley too. Do they have a web page or some place they can be seen?

You are lucky to live in a place with so rich saddlery history, it is not much to be found here no more.

I saw a Danish saddler who has a lot of old harness ornaments, Heraldic crowns and such. He has done a lot for the Danish royal family apparently. http://www.sadelmager-dahlman.dk/side35.html

There is a lot of nice historic stuff from the French saddelry there too. The language is Danish and French, google translate will take care of it.

http://www.sadelmager-dahlman.dk/side32.html

[Les No6]

Hi, The book are available on amazon. I did not know H Brindley still was in business, I think I saw the stuff from J Adams somewhere. I would love to see it again, Brindley too. Do they have a web page or some place they can be seen?

You are lucky to live in a place with so rich saddlery history, it is not much to be found here no more.

I saw a Danish saddler who has a lot of old harness ornaments, Heraldic crowns and such. He has done a lot for the Danish royal family apparently. http://www.sadelmage....dk/side35.html

There is a lot of nice historic stuff from the French saddelry there too. The language is Danish and French, google translate will take care of it.

http://www.sadelmage....dk/side32.html

Hi H Brindley are not still in business the ploughs where new old stock my Father or Grandfather acquired them, sadly they are not with us any more so don’t know any more I found them in a box still packed in grease and paper. Here’s a link to J Adam.

http://www.sheffieldknives.co.uk/acatalog/7-121.html

We still have quite a large and buoyant Saddlery industry left here sadly most of everything else has gone apart from banking and services.

Thanks for the links there is a lot of very interesting stuff on that site.

Still haven’t had time to pop into Sheffield, the Wife and Kids are away on holiday next week so I’ll have plenty of free time then J

[Trox]

Thank you for the link, I look forward to hear about the visit to Sheffield.

Thanks

Tor

Hi H Brindley are not still in business the ploughs where new old stock my Father or Grandfather acquired them, sadly they are not with us any more so don’t know any more I found them in a box still packed in grease and paper. Here’s a link to J Adam.

http://www.sheffieldknives.co.uk/acatalog/7-121.html

We still have quite a large and buoyant Saddlery industry left here sadly most of everything else has gone apart from banking and services.

Thanks for the links there is a lot of very interesting stuff on that site.

Still haven’t had time to pop into Sheffield, the Wife and Kids are away on holiday next week so I’ll have plenty of free time then J

[simontuntelder]

Les, did you ever find the time to drop by and see what the new George Barnsleys/Woodware Rep were up to?