Members Macca Posted September 24, 2013 Members Report Posted September 24, 2013 Hello friends, I missed this one http://www.ebay.ca/i...3#ht_421wt_1162 somebody got them self a very nice Mayer Flamery Parer. It had to be a quick sale, Is it not the same as one of yours Walter? Hey Tor, Another one has just gone up on Ebay.fr http://www.ebay.fr/itm/OUTIL-ANCIEN-MACHINE-a-PARER-de-BOURRELIER-CORDONNIER-CUIR-LEATHER-SHAVE-/290984308870?pt=FR_JG_Art_Objets_XIX&hash=item43c0043086 Quote
Trox Posted September 25, 2013 Report Posted September 25, 2013 (edited) Hey Tor, Another one has just gone up on Ebay.fr http://www.ebay.fr/i...=item43c0043086 Thank you Macca, this one starts high. Today I did a very good buy on a Fortuna band knife splitter, a big box with allot of clicking dies (shoe related mostly), A very nice little United shoe machine pinking machine with many tools (bench machine, it can be used as an embosser too) several rolls of leather and vinyl etc. On the purchase the seller gave me an old Adler class 5-25 head for free. It was stuck, I used an half hour and half a liter diesel (lamp oil) and now it turns, it looks good too. A bit rust inside, it will come off. I do not want to tell you the price yet, I can tell you it was very... very cheap. I think this will be my best one so far, because the band knife machine is normally priced very high. The old man who sold it to me could not use any of his stuff anymore and was happy to get rid of it. The machine works very well. Its a machine just like this one ( but not this one), I will post a picture of it later when I have it in my shop. I have to get this one in my shop before I buy any more, I am completely stuffed. Thanks for telling me, I will see how high it goes. Here is a picture of that pinking machine, it is some more option on it you can put a V belt on it and its a pulley on a shaft behind machine too ( you do not see it on this pic). I also found a small nice stove for heating finishing tools (like creasers and such) It needs some cleaning up of course. Tor Edited September 25, 2013 by Trox Quote Tor Workshop machines: TSC 441 clone/Efka DC1550, Dürkopp-Adler 267-373/Efka DC1600, Pfaff 345-H3/Cobra 600W, Singer 29K-72, Sandt 8 Ton clicking machine, Alpha SM skiving unit, Fortuna 620 band knife splitting machine. Old Irons: Adler 5-27, Adler 30-15, Singer 236W-100
Members walter roth Posted September 25, 2013 Author Members Report Posted September 25, 2013 Hi Ray ..... I do not always have time, but I will continue to Tread long ..... (((-: I still have many pictures I have to digitize but only before I can show them here once, and I also work with many books out plans, I would also like to show once here. From the saddle to the collar or harness I have everything clean recorded in drawings, but I have to test how can the pictures. So just be patient, then comes again what. This iemenschneider, yes the cost always money. The new in-Vergez Blanchard certainly close to 400 dollars depending on how old they are in Zustzand. Sometimes I buy one for 100 francs, then for a lot more. Only, ...... old Sattler found here almost no more. But Bruce has some very nice, if you want one, that would be a good choice. As he also purifies and service is always great, he must of course have a price. If you are looking for something specific, drop me a message and I'll have a look what may be found. greeting Walter Quote
Members walter roth Posted September 26, 2013 Author Members Report Posted September 26, 2013 (edited) Hi leather craftsman... Here something to the topic of plough-gouge. Some models here so could found in Switzerland. once. Here there was almost never a steel, which you didn't like here in the Switzerland, because she quickly content. Yes, in the 50 brought the Sattler such tools to the depositor and let chrome them en masse as rust protection. But these tools not proven because the good hard chromium process were not yet available. I think the ploughs were made of steel during the war years, when brass was in short supply and very expensive. So here are a few models, and especially German by Rössler, Langenhahn, etc. To do this, some knives and as they are ground. And I assure you, you can shave it. The last two blades are of Blanchard, I bought the last one in the series of images in my apprenticeship, between the and the 2 knives are probably the 60 years. When Blanchard one is noteworthy, he changed the quality usually very long time, things aren't always exactly the same over the decades. I used a knife 30 years now and it keeps still so long. If the knives are well ground, must you sharpen them only twice per year. Even if you used it for several hundred metres leather belt. So check it out. And as I said, the knife to the ploughs only from the left side grind, at a width of approx 1-1.5 cm. ...auf which outer side only the brow take, not more. And if you did it right, a belt will never suddenly to narrow lbe one because the plough at the cut wanders. Greeting Walter Edited September 26, 2013 by walter roth Quote
Members walter roth Posted September 26, 2013 Author Members Report Posted September 26, 2013 Here are the rest of the images that had no place in the first post. Walter Quote
Members walter roth Posted September 26, 2013 Author Members Report Posted September 26, 2013 Hi leather craftsman... If you here earlier began his work as a student in Switzerland, you got so often a case with a basic need for tools. They were one forever. And when it was changed his employer you took the things in just this little box. Here in the Switzerland worked a SADDLER earlier only with his own stuff, and he brought that in the workplace, which were not provided by the master. This is a quite old model, as I teach in the came the ais were made and no longer covered with oilcloth wood. In addition, this model is more of an upholsterer, because this Pincushion in the lid was not so often to be found at Saddlers. The fabric was often a rest from mohair velours, a fabric made of goat hair. I have replaced the fabric here, the old man was full of moths. My box was me but the teaching already much too small at the end, I had at that time already exactly 66 tools... According to list of 1982. Greeting Walter Quote
Trox Posted September 26, 2013 Report Posted September 26, 2013 Hello Walter, very nice ploughs. It is very interesting to see these German pattern ploughs. About the knife grind I totally agree with you, I prefer the same type of edge; left side only. It then compress the leather against the guide, its the best type of edge on a plough gouge. The reason I repeat this is because we had an discussion about plough knife-edges in the "leather tools" forum before. Thank you for sharing your history with us. Tor Quote Tor Workshop machines: TSC 441 clone/Efka DC1550, Dürkopp-Adler 267-373/Efka DC1600, Pfaff 345-H3/Cobra 600W, Singer 29K-72, Sandt 8 Ton clicking machine, Alpha SM skiving unit, Fortuna 620 band knife splitting machine. Old Irons: Adler 5-27, Adler 30-15, Singer 236W-100
Moderator bruce johnson Posted September 26, 2013 Moderator Report Posted September 26, 2013 Thank you Walter, Macca, and Tor! This is my favorite thread on the forum! One thing I am finding interesting after seeing several are the different configurations of the fences (guides). Steel, brass, two pieces of steel, etc. Then the shape viewed from the top is interesting. They all have some "flare" on the front. From there some have a long flat area. Others have a shorter flat area and may flare back out a bit on the back edge of the guide. This flare at the back seems to be a bit more common on some of the Dixons. One question I have is on the screws on the Blanchards. Is there a name for those with the rounded heads? Are they still available in Europe? One thing with them I found last year is at least some, the rounded head is threaded onto the shaft of the screw. I had a plough gauge that the head would unscrew from the shaft when it was loosened. Thank you, Bruce Quote Bruce Johnson Malachi 4:2 "the windshield's bigger than the mirror, somewhere west of Laramie" - Dave Stamey Vintage Refurbished And Selected New Leather Tools For Sale - www.brucejohnsonleather.com
Members walter roth Posted September 27, 2013 Author Members Report Posted September 27, 2013 Hello everybody... Thank you, it is nice that it you like, and I like to show it to you. It is a wonderful job, you should do everything to make him die. And I am also here interested in a completely different area of the world to learn. Well, I'm one of the Sattler who have worked so much now. A good Plough is more efficient to use such a large Riemenschneidmaschiene. To get forward more quickly with the work and it needs little power doing... If they are properly ground. The large Riemenschneider by Müller and Kurt, I long ago time sold, so a machine seemed to be useless. http://www.sieck.de/Maschinen/riemen-schneiden/details/Mueller-Kurth-Typ-37-n-riemenschneide-reifel-und-praegemaschine-generalueberholt/ Screws with round heads. Bruce, these screws are often missing, but you can't get them. Drinn you with round heads and the hole... Blanchard no longer makes them for decades. I've had to make some. Since I make no "series" but, but just 10 pieces, she has me Meschniker by hand, which took a prize so 15 minutes per schraube...was 20 francs meant. And it's cheap in the Switzerland. The screw with the hole but without the round head, the 12 francs are slightly cheaper. When one makes such screws, in whatever form, in a quantity of 100, they are much cheaper. There are sometimes also M-7, what there is in fact no longer the "metric" size M-6 and M-8, at Blanchard but the European tools. I need some bolts of it again, I won't do that again in the next few weeks. If you need 2-3, I can give you. If you need more it might be worthwhile to set up the machine, then they cost much less, but you must make enough. I would have to first new ask what they cost exactly. Sign up if you're interested. Greeting Walter Quote
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