Buying A 227R What I Have To Check The Most?

[BodegaBrasil]

Hi ... I have an Adler working hun-hun (old ... very old) so started to look around and found this "deal" on a Consew for 1.9k ... I tested it very fast but even with the experience using the Adler, not sure if I'm doing a good deal.

There is NO ONE in my area I can trust to help me or ask for a lot of money and I even know if knows that much.

Travel to GA to check my Adler was an option (11h driving) but this machine looks nice.

Anyways ... spend this money redoing my Adler 69 or follow a new path on this Consew?

HELP! (and thanks in advance ...)

[Jesleright]

Howdy BodegBrasil,

I don't know anything about the Adler 69, but I do have a clone of the 227R that i ordered from Toledo Industrial Sewing Machines. It came with a servo motor - very easy to control the speed.

If that Consew you tested only includes the machine head, stand and motor, then $1.9k sounds a bit pricey compared to what the clones sell for.

By the way, this topic is in the wrong section. I would suggest that you start this topic anew in the "Leather Sewing Machines" forum of this website, and include more information on the Consew 'deal' you found (what accessories are included? is there a warranty? is setup included? who is the dealer?). Also mention the type and weight of leather goods you are intending to sew. That should get you more replies, with better answers from those who have much more experience than i.

[BodegaBrasil]

Howdy partner!!
Thank you Jesleright, very much for you help. And for the tips about to the right place when I post again ... rookie here, you know, I got lost with so many things to read!
I wish to know this "place" before I started 3 /4 years ago.

The Adler 69 is "exactly" the same as the CONSEW 227R(?) but with the bobbin on the side instead on the top of the arm.
Otherwise, some years ago, they just were considered more chi-chi-fancy machines due were made in Germany and not in Japan.

When I started to learned about these (old) machines, was told me to choose japanese versions over the chinese ones.
For instance, "... don't get a CONSEW 206RB-5! The 206RB is THE SAME machine but trully reliable!".
OK. And I have to tell you, I have an old, old, old JUKI and this new model 8500/8700.
For god sake! The people that sell them suppose to get some time in jail. IT IS crap!
Well ... obvious reasons once it's being now produced by demand and not to keep the quality.
Even though, some "re-made" machines here in the US (and sold by one of the companies who announce on the banners above) you have to be prepared for the good AND the bad. Not because technical assistance is on the same country - it won't avoid the headaches to deal with the back and forth of your "new" machine - but of course, if you refuse to get caught in this spin wheel, you will spend tons of hours being "guided" on the phone by one of their "technicians" to fix the problem.

But what I saw now, this TOLEDO co looks very reliable and carrying with amazing products.
OF COURSE if you put side by side the images, you will see their COWBOY CB227R, IS the body of a Consew 227R and they probably rebuild the whole machine.
I wish I knew them before get caught on the negotiation.

Anyways ... I could put down the price to 1.4k. However, he took off the clutch from the package. He also wanted to get rid of of the machine before move to other state.
But for this same reason, I had to decided almost on the next day if I pay or not the price I reached, otherwise he will bite the dust and bring it with him.

Well ... comparing prices now, I don't think I got a bad deal, once buying the servo from Toledo now, it will bring the price for their "same machine" and I didn't have to pay the shipping. The "thing" now is to know (pray) for the machine work properly as I had bought the Cowboy "brand new".

Again,
Thank you so much for your attention and tips.
Take care!